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In my experience "upgraded" is another way of saying " we didn't want to
pay for the tooling for an accurate reproduction ".
M
On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Bob--
>
> Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact
> they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and $163.00
> respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded" pump and
> I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to justify such
> an increase. "Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the
> propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the term describes longevity
> versus performance, with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the upgrade is in
> performance that usually means increased water flow. Unless the outer
> housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller
> cannot be that much larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be
> achieved.
>
> Just sayin'....
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be the
>> same:
>>
>> https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html
>>
>> (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
>>
>> Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss catalog
>> it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The cheaper one
>> Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a County product. I've
>> bad experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock say they
>> have fit many with no issues.
>>
>> The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes with a
>> barbed nipple:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx
>>
>>
>> I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump appears
>> to be OK.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
>>
>> AsI recall Moss is or was selling "Upgraded" water pumps.
>> Does anyone know what the "upgrade" consists of?
>> Bob, if you buy one I hope you will post what your appraisal and
>> experience with the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps we
>> are offered as "wear items".
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the 'upgraded' pump
>>> AHSpares is selling.
>>>
>>> It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose. Thanks for the
>>> tips, guys.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, gradea1@charter.net wrote:
>>>
>>> AH Spares, UK is currently advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the AH
>>> Magazine- they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with. Hank
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best--Michael
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<div dir=3D"auto">In my experience "upgraded" is another way of s=
aying " we didn't want to pay for the tooling for an accurate repr=
oduction ".<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun=
., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:#3333ff">Bob--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"co=
lor:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"=
>Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue=C2=A0this morning I see that in =
fact they do sell the two side-by-side as you=C2=A0state at $96.00 and $163=
.00 respectively.=C2=A0 That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgr=
aded" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does i=
t--to justify such an increase.=C2=A0 "Upgrade" might have severa=
l meanings and given the propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the=C2=
=A0term describes longevity versus performance, with a better-quality seal.=
=C2=A0 OTOH if the upgrade is in performance that usually means increased w=
ater=C2=A0flow.=C2=A0 Unless the outer housing is substantially larger the =
cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that much large=
r and=C2=A0so I wonder how such an increase would be achieved.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Just sayin'....=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021=
at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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=20
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<div>
Michael,<br>
<br>
The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to=
be
the same:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.ht=
ml" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-=
pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br>
<br>
(if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br>
<br>
Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'=
--per the Moss
catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The
cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a
County product. I've bad experiences with County, but both Tom
Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.<br>
<br>
The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes
with a barbed nipple:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heat=
ing-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-hea=
ley/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.=
aspx</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
appears to be OK.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">AsI rec=
all Moss
is or was selling "Upgraded" water=C2=A0pumps.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Does an=
yone
know what the "upgrade" consists of?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bob, if=
you buy
one I hope you will post what your appraisal and experience
with=C2=A0the part is--for now I have come to0 regard the pumps w=
e
are offered as "wear items".</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42
PM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the
'upgraded' pump AHSpares is selling.<br>
<br>
It appears my pump is OK, the pulley had just come loose.
Thanks for the tips, guys.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> AH Spares, UK is currently
advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the AH Magazine-
they show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with.
Hank<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><font color=3D"#3333ff">Best--Michael</font></div>
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