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Rod and crank bearings...
Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 10:34 PM Steven Kingsbury <
airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote:
> Nope. No metal. And why would there be brass?
>
> On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?
>
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, OR
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have
>> always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,
>> they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the head
>> at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1
>> did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bit
>> louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound almost
>> exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent
>> and the engine runs very smooth.
>> As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile
>> mark, I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a
>> magnet in the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the
>> magnet and ran it through the oil before I poured it through the filter,
>> and again nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after
>> transferring the oil, and again, nothing.
>> Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what
>> to listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to
>> do. And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones
>> available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have
>> been in you possession for quite a while now, right?
>> Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and
>> you caught it in time.
>> Thanks!
>> Steven
>>
>> On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had
>> initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
>> After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
>> Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the drain
>> plug magnet.
>> I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a
>> set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
>> I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but
>> at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <
>> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in
>>> the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000
>>> miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out with
>>> my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.
>>> Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems
>>> did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems?
>>> When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problems.
>>> They were a little off, but I expected a little.
>>> What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I
>>> switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to
>>> build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've got M
>>> mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So
>>> far, so good.
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Steven Kingsbury
>>> BN1
>>>
>>> On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine
>>> with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
>>> This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4
>>> changes in 6K miles.
>>> Very disappointing.
>>> I'm considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods
>>> and a new cam.
>>> Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters
>>> ... getting a little desperate here.
>>> Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.
>>>
>>> M
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<div dir=3D"auto">Rod and crank bearings...<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"g=
mail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 10:34 PM Steven Kingsbury <<a href=3D"mailto:airti=
ghtproductions@icloud.com">airtightproductions@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Nope. No metal. And why wou=
ld there be brass?=C2=A0</div><div><br>On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs=
<<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Typically it's brass not ferrous. So n=
o metal at all in the filter?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Aug 5=
, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>Thanks fo=
r the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have always made no=
ise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had, they're not=
quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the head at 500 mil=
e mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1 did. And =
because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bit louder, bu=
t with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound almost exactly l=
ike my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent and th=
e engine runs very smooth.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0As for "fir&quo=
t; in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark, I ran all of =
the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in the filter. =
Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran it through t=
he oil before I poured it through the filter, and again nothing. I even ran=
the magnet through the empty drain pan after transferring the oil, and aga=
in, nothing.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Sorry to hear about your troubles =
and thank you for the tips on what to listen for and what to look for. Good=
luck with whatever you decide to do. And just to be clear, these lifters y=
ou used are not the new "new" ones available through AH Spares. R=
ather they are New Old Stock ones that have been in you possession for quit=
e a while now, right?=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Again, good luck an=
d hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and you caught it in tim=
e.=C2=A0</div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Steven</div><div><br>On August 5, 2021=
at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:=
<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto">The fir=
st sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had initially be=
en silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<div dir=3D"auto">After a=
djusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir=
" in the drain plug magnet.</div><div dir=3D"auto">I'm very disapp=
ointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a set of =
NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.</div><div dir=3D"auto">I=
9;m seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but a=
t over $1000 a set its a serious investment.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven King=
sbury, <<a href=3D"mailto:airtightproductions@icloud.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">airtightproductions@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>I just rebuilt my 100 engine an=
d purchased my lifters from AH Spares in the UK. These were their new desig=
n for better oil flow. I now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine and on=
ce I got my problems figured out with my distributor, the car is running we=
ll and smooth.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Now I'm wondering when the o=
ther shoe is going to drop! What problems did you have pointing you to the =
lifters as the source of those problems? When I retorqued the head, I readj=
usted the rockers and found no problems. They were a little off, but I expe=
cted a little.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0What should I be looking for? I =
used Driven Break In oil and then I switched to VR1 like you after 500 mile=
s. I have been driving the car to build up some trust in it and it's tu=
rning in to a joy to drive. I've got M mods on this engine, cam, H6 car=
bs, M pistons and these new lifters. So far, so good.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for your help,</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</div><div>B=
N1</div><div><br>On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto">After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lift=
ers that I installed in my engine with a very low mileage "M" cam=
have started to deteriorate.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">This engine has had a =
steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4 changes in 6K miles.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Very disappointing.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I'm=C2=A0 considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer pus=
h rods and a new cam.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Does anyone have experience wi=
th the durability of the old Buick lifters ... getting a little desperate h=
ere.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruine=
d the engine.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></d=
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