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Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 20:32:17 -0700
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Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley on 
the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation 
in the pump and hose?

bs


On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Ira:
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the 
> BN4, however, the BJ8â??s has deflectors built in to the frame in front 
> of the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the 
> radiator.  So the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the 
> radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on 
> the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water.  But it does 
> not move the water very fast through the engine back to the radiator, 
> especially under low rpms.  So I have introduced an electric water 
> pump (Aussie idea, as it does get hot down under) to keep the flow of 
> water through the radiator to the engine through the water pump and 
> back to the radiator.  it adds 150 liter per minute to the trickle 
> produced by the mechanical pump.  I fact one of the listeners 
> commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump 
> operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using existing 
> hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to the 
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8^th diameter holes in the thermostat 
> to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the 
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water.  
> And, I have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow 
> containers, and some have an electric water pump. 21^st century 
> technology verses our 20^th century.  They even have AC power steering 
> etc. systems as standard equipment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs 
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become 
> an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had 
> various reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have 
> been looking at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. 
> Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/ 
> <https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/>
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/ 
> <https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/>
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
>       _______        _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
>
>     BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
> 1967 MGB MG
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
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    Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller pulley
    on the water pump for more flow? Would that just make
    turbulence/cavitation in the pump and hose?<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via
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            Ira:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I
            am not familiar with the direction of air around the
            radiator in the BN4, however, the BJ8â??s has deflectors built
            in to the frame in front of the radiator, but, not for the
            wind that drops down under the radiator.  So the
            introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator
            produces a hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on
            the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool water.  But
            it does not move the water very fast through the engine back
            to the radiator, especially under low rpms.  So I have
            introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does
            get hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the
            radiator to the engine through the water pump and back to
            the radiator.  it adds 150 liter per minute to the trickle
            produced by the mechanical pump.  I fact one of the
            listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just
            keep the water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy
            to install using existing hoses cut in half going from the
            bottom of the radiator up to the inlet on the engine, and 2
            x 1/8<sup>th</sup> diameter holes in the thermostat to allow
            the water to flow during engine warm up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">After
            a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after
            the engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the
            hot water.  And, I have a large radiator overflow container
            to absorb boil over.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Why
            do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans,
            overflow containers, and some have an electric water pump. 
            21<sup>st</sup> century technology verses our 20<sup>th</sup>
            century.  They even have AC power steering etc. systems as
            standard equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Best
            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys
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 <b>On Behalf Of </b>i
            erbs via Healeys<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Ahealey help <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] air ducting kit<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I have not had my grille in my BN4 for
              a long time and it has become an identifying feature of my
              car. I have a grille, I just have had various reasons to
              not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been
              looking at the Cape International kits to accomplish the
              look. Plus anything that directs more air through the Rad
              cores is good .<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">So has anyone done this or another 
kit?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/";
                
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/";
                
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Ira
                                              Erbs<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">      _______    
                                                                      
 
                                                         _______<br>
                                                       (______ \____1959
                                                  BN4____/ _______)<br>
                                                          
                                                  
(_________________________)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                    BT7 engine and disk
                                                brakes<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                  racing car is an
                                                  animal with a thousand
                                                  adjustments. Mario
                                                  Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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