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Michael- Based on the price of them, they are probably ready to use.=0AY=
ou can tell by how much wheel weight is required to have them run=0Atrue=
. 1-2 oz. good; 4-6 oz. or higher, you might have to check them=0Afor ru=
nout. You can always mount one on a hub and spin it with a dial=0Agauge=
fixed somewhere- over .030" runout and they are in need of=0Atruing. Ha=
nk=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Michael MacLe=
an" =0ATo: "Ahealey help"=0ACc: =0ASent: Monday May 3 2021 1:42:17PM=0AS=
ubject: Re: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels=0A=0A I have brand new Da=
ytons on my BN2. Not used yet at this point.=0AShould they be tried OK f=
rom the factory? Mike MacLean =0A On Mon, May 3, 2021, 12:24 PM Henry G=
Leach via Healeys wrote:=0A As a kid with no money, in the early '70,=
I thought it would be=0Agreat to have chrome wire wheels on the finishe=
d example of the A-H100=0Athat I had just disassembled. They would just=
look like Donald=0AHealey's show cars. =0A So, I took the wheels I had,=
picked up some additional used wheels,=0Aincluding one new affordable o=
ne I located, and disassembled all of=0Athem, breaking lots of spokes as=
I went along..until I eventually had=0Aenough good spokes and nibs for=
5 wheels. Remember this was the 1970s=0Aso parts for these cars were ni=
l and so was the money to buy new=0Achrome ones. The only affordable thi=
ng at that time was chrome=0Aplating. I had 5 wheels and hubs and countl=
ess spokes and nibs=0Are-plated for $150! =0A I polished all the spokes=
and nibs in a hobby rock tumbler used to=0Ashine beach rocks to gemlike=
appearance...took hours and days but not=0A$$. The chrome plater assure=
d me he would "anneal" the spokes so as=0Anot to get brittle in the proc=
ess =0A Forty-five years later they are on the car after spending hours=
=0Aassembling and truing. Was all that worth the effort, that now you ca=
n=0Ajust order an Indian set from Moss for a grand? I don't know if a=0A=
labor of love counts in this case, but I get lots of positive comments=
=0Aon the finished "affordable" product. Hank=0A=0A=09------------------=
----------------------- From: "Laurie Wilford"=0A To: "gradea1@charter.n=
et", "Harold Manifold"=0A Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net"=0A Sent: Monday M=
ay 3 2021 11:20:06AM=0A Subject: RE: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels=
=0A=0AI have rebuilt and trued a number of wire wheels over the past thi=
rty=0Ayears, starting with replacing spokes on my Made in India Dunlop=
=0Achrome 60 spoke set. I broke so many spokes on those wheels that I=
=0Aended up purchasing spokes and nipples in bulk direct from Dayton. Th=
e=0Ainformation I was given by them was that truing wheels to plus or=0A=
minus 0.030" was the best they could expect when building new wheels!=
=0A Laurie Wilford =0A Sent from my Galaxy =0A=0A -------- Original=
message -------- From: Henry G Leach via Healeys =0ADate: 2021-05-03 1:=
40 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: 'Harold Manifold' Cc:=0A"'healeys@autox.team.ne=
t'" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing=0AWheels =0A Hi Harold- ye=
s, I also used a dial gauge and that, unfortunately, is=0Atoo fine an in=
strument for the crude wheels that we have. It will=0Adrive you crazy to=
try to "0" out the wheel. Looks like you got close=0Aand could not effe=
ct a change. Me too. That is probably as good as it=0Awill get. I think=
the eye is a better judge of the "quality" of the=0Awheel-if you see ru=
nout try to move it to be less. Of the five wheels=0AI did I rated them=
as the best-worse and used #5 for the spare,=0Aputting the best on the=
fronts. They are very close to "good" as round=0Agoes. A wonderful theo=
ry that in practical use has some forgiveness. =0A You could send them a=
ssembled, off to Hendricks Wheel service and=0Athey may be able to do a=
tighter finish. Folks swear that their trued,=0Ashaved, rebuilt wheels=
from them are the cats meow. =0A A couple of things I did in assembly:=
I used anti seize compound on=0Aall the spoke threads-just enough to ma=
ke so you could possibly undo=0Athem later. Then at the other end, I use=
d marine sealant on the hub=0Anubs to seal in grease and seal out water.=
May work for awhile. I also=0Aran a 2" duct tape seal over the nibs in=
the rim, in addition to the=0Arubber rim seal (which does not cover the=
m well.) =0A The only secret sequence I found was when you tightened one=
nib, you=0Aneeded to go to the exact opposite nib to compensate for the=
"pull" on=0Athe shape of the wheel. Remarkable how much they will disto=
rt. Fun=0Aexperience to do ONCE. Best of luck, Hank=0A=0A=09------------=
----------------------------- From: "Harold Manifold"=0A To: "gradea1@ch=
arter.net"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Monday May 3 2021 8:44:09AM=0A Subject: RE: [=
Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels=0A=0A=09Hank, =0A=0A=09Thanks for the=
reply. Did you find any secret sequence for loosening=0Aand tightening=
the spokes. I have a dial gauge and can find the high=0Aspots and low s=
pots but I seem to be able to just move them around. =0A=0A=09I agree th=
is will tedious no matter what. =0A=0A=09Harold =0A=0A=09FROM: gradea1@c=
harter.net=0ASENT: Sunday, May 2, 2021 6:21 PM=0ATO: Harold Manifold=0AC=
C: healeys@autox.team.net=0ASUBJECT: RE: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Whe=
els =0A=0A=09Harold- I made up this table with an axle hub mounted vert=
ically and=0Aa fixed post each side using two coffee stir sticks as mark=
ers or=0Aguides. After lacing the wheel, rotate to first get rid of up/d=
own=0Awobble and then tighten to keep wheel round-equally from each post=
.=0A(photos) =0A=0A=09You are correct the spokes and nibs are 10-32, bu=
t the thread angle=0Ais Whitworth (55 degrees-I believe) Use a British t=
ap to clean up=0Athreads. Don't use SAE. =0A=0A=09Its a tedious task b=
ut I did all 5 wheels for my 100, and they run=0Aperfect. Check a bicycl=
e/motorcycle shop for procedure. Have fun, Hank=0A=0A=0A=09-------------=
---------------------------- =0A=0A=09From: "Harold Manifold via Healeys=
"=0A To: "healeys@autox.team.net"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Sunday May 2 2021 4:35=
:21PM=0A Subject: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels =0A=0A=09Hello,=
=0A=0A=09What is the thread size for the spokes and nipples It looks li=
ke=0A10-32 but a threading die doesn=E2=80=99t seem to fit. Also, does a=
nyone=0Ahave a good procedure for truing wheels? I was told Out of Round=
first=0Athen Wobble. I did the Out of Round on one wheel and could get=
to=0A0.050=E2=80=9D but no better. =0A=0A=09Harold =0A=0A=09 __=
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<html><body>Michael- Based on the price of them, they are probably ready=
to use. You can tell by how much wheel weight is required to have them=
run true. 1-2 oz. good; 4-6 oz. or higher, you might have to check them=
for runout. You can always mount one on a hub and spin it with a dial g=
auge fixed somewhere- over .030" runout and they are in need of truing.=
Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------------=
--------------------------</p>From: "Michael MacLean" <springer.mike51@g=
mail.com><br>To: "Ahealey help"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday May 3 2021 1:42=
:17PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels<br><br>=0A<div>=
I have brand new Daytons on my BN2. Not used=0Ayet at this point.&=
nbsp; Should they be tried OK from the factory?=0A<div>Mike MacLean</div=
>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 3, 2021, 12:24 PM=0AHenry G Leach via Healeys &=
lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div>As a kid with no money, in the early '70, I=
thought it would=0Abe great to have chrome wire wheels on the finished=
example of the=0AA-H100 that I had just disassembled. They would just l=
ook like=0ADonald Healey's show cars.=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>So, I too=
k the wheels I had, picked up some additional used=0Awheels, including o=
ne new affordable one I located, and=0Adisassembled all of them, breakin=
g lots of spokes as I went=0Aalong..until I eventually had enough good s=
pokes and nibs for 5=0Awheels. Remember this was the 1970s so part=
s for these cars=0Awere nil and so was the money to buy new chrome ones.=
The only=0Aaffordable thing at that time was chrome plating. I had 5 wh=
eels=0Aand hubs and countless spokes and nibs re-plated for $150!</div>=
=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>I polished all the spokes and nibs in a hobby=
rock tumbler=0Aused to shine beach rocks to gemlike appearance...took h=
ours and=0Adays but not $$. The chrome plater assured me he would "annea=
l" the=0Aspokes so as not to get brittle in the process</div>=0A<div><br=
></div>=0A<div>Forty-five years later they are on the car after spending=
=0Ahours assembling and truing. Was all that worth the effort, that=0Ano=
w you can just order an Indian set from Moss for a grand? I=0Adon'=
t know if a labor of love counts in this case, but I get lots=0Aof posit=
ive comments on the finished "affordable" product. Hank<br><br><p>------=
-----------------------------------</p>=0AFrom: "Laurie Wilford"<br>=0AT=
o: "<a>gradea1@charter.net</a>", "Harold Manifold"<br>=0ACc: "<a>healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>"<br>=0ASent: Monday May 3 2021 11:20:06AM<br>=0ASubj=
ect: RE: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels<br><br><div>I have rebuilt a=
nd trued a number of wire wheels over the past=0Athirty years, starting=
with replacing spokes on my Made in=0AIndia Dunlop chrome 60 spok=
e set. </div>=0A<div>I broke so many spokes on those wheels that I=
ended up=0Apurchasing spokes and nipples in bulk direct from=0ADa=
yton.</div>=0A<div>The information I was given by them was that truing w=
heels to=0Aplus or minus 0.030" was the best they could expect when buil=
ding=0Anew wheels!</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Laurie Wilford </=
div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#5757=
57;">Sent from my Galaxy</div>=0A</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></d=
iv>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>-------- Original message --------</div>=0A=
<div>From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t;</div>=0A<div>Date: 2021-05-03 1:40 p.m. (GMT-05:00)</div>=0A<div>To:=
'Harold Manifold' <<a>manifold@telus.net</a>></div>=0A<div>Cc: "'=
<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>'" <<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>></d=
iv>=0A<div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels</div>=0A<div>=
<br></div>=0A<div>Hi Harold- yes, I also used a dial gauge and that,=0Au=
nfortunately, is too fine an instrument for the crude wheels that=0Awe h=
ave. It will drive you crazy to try to "0" out the wheel. Looks=0Alike y=
ou got close and could not effect a change. Me too. =0AThat is prob=
ably as good as it will get. I think the eye is a=0Abetter judge o=
f the "quality" of the wheel-if you see runout try to=0Amove it to be le=
ss. Of the five wheels I did I rated them as the=0Abest-worse and used #=
5 for the spare, putting the best on the=0Afronts. They are very close t=
o "good" as round goes. A wonderful=0Atheory that in practical use has s=
ome forgiveness.=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>You could send them assembled,=
off to Hendricks Wheel service=0Aand they may be able to do a tighter f=
inish. Folks swear that=0Atheir trued, shaved, rebuilt wheels from=
them are the cats=0Ameow.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>A couple of th=
ings I did in assembly: I used anti seize=0Acompound on all the spoke th=
reads-just enough to make so you could=0Apossibly undo them later. Then=
at the other end, I used marine=0Asealant on the hub nubs to seal in gr=
ease and seal out water. =0AMay work for awhile. I also ran a 2" du=
ct tape seal over the nibs=0Ain the rim, in addition to the rubber rim s=
eal (which does not=0Acover them well.)</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>T=
he only secret sequence I found was when you tightened one=0Anib, you ne=
eded to go to the exact opposite nib to compensate for=0Athe "pull" on t=
he shape of the wheel. Remarkable how much they will=0Adistort. Fun expe=
rience to do ONCE. Best of luck, Hank<br><br><p>------------------------=
-----------------</p>=0AFrom: "Harold Manifold"<br>=0ATo: "<a>gradea1@ch=
arter.net</a>"<br>=0ACc:<br>=0ASent: Monday May 3 2021 8:44:09AM<br>=0AS=
ubject: RE: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels<br><br><div>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Hank,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for the reply. Did you find any secret=0Asequence=
for loosening and tightening the spokes. I have a dial=0Agauge and can=
find the high spots and low spots but I seem to be=0Aable to just move=
them around.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I agree this will tedious no matter what.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"> </p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"> </p>=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1p=
t;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:no=
ne;padding:0in;"><b>From:</b>=0A<a>gradea1@charter.net</a><br><b>Sent:</=
b> Sunday, May 2, 2021 6:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a>Harold Manifold</a><br><=
b>Cc:</b> <a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys]=
Spokes and Truing Wheels</p>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </=
p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold- I made up this table with an axle hu=
b=0Amounted vertically and a fixed post each side using two coffee stir=
=0Asticks as markers or guides. After lacing the wheel,=0Aro=
tate to first get rid of up/down wobble and then tighten to keep=0Awheel=
round-equally from each post. (photos)</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You are correc=
t the spokes and nibs are 10-32,=0Abut the thread angle is Whitworth (55=
degrees-I believe) Use a=0ABritish tap to clean up threads. Don't use S=
AE.</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A=
<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">Its a tedio=
us task=0Abut I did all 5 wheels for my 100, and they run perfect. Check=
a=0Abicycle/motorcycle shop for procedure. Have fun, Hank</p>=0A<p>----=
-------------------------------------</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">From: "Harold=0AManifold via Healeys"<br>=0ATo:=
"<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>"<br>=0ACc:<br>=0ASent: Sunday May 2 2021=
4:35:21PM<br>=0ASubject: [Healeys] Spokes and Truing Wheels</p>=0A<div>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the thread size for the spokes and=0An=
ipples It looks like 10-32 but a threading die doesn=E2=80=99t seem to=
=0Afit. Also, does anyone have a good procedure for truing wheels? I=0Aw=
as told Out of Round first then Wobble. I did the Out of Round on=0Aone=
wheel and could get to 0.050=E2=80=9D but no better.</p>=0A<p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold</p>=0A</div>=0A</d=
iv>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <=
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