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Subject: Re: [Healeys] It just quit
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 19:02:05 -0700
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Easier to just disconnect it at the coil, if car's wiring is stock. 
Should be on the 'CB' or '+' terminal for a pos. gnd. car; white with 
black tracer.

Do you get spark at the plugs when the engine is cranked? If not, it's 
probably a bad rotor (new or not).

bs

On 4/1/2021 6:48 PM, George Haywood via Healeys wrote:
> Mike,
> Try disconnecting the white wire from the battery switch in the boot.  
> This switch is notorious for grounding internally at the switch not 
> allowing the engine to fire.  It turns over as if all is well, just 
> won't start.
>
> Take care,
>
> George Haywood
> '65 bj8
>
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> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Mike 
> Sinclair via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 9:16 PM
> *To:* AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] It just quit
>
> I'm stumped. The Healey quit on me the other day (BJ8). Was running 
> great, then a slight miss for a mile or so, then very suddenly quit.  
> Tach went to zero instantly. Fuel pump clicks after it has sat for 
> awhile, engine turns over rapidly, but nothing happens, even with 
> starter fluid.  Not a whimper.
>
> So far I have:
>
> Checked for spark at a plug.  OK, but may not be under load.
>
> Checked for fuel flow at filter exit. Plenty.
>
> Per instructions in the manual, opened points and checked for voltage 
> at coil SW and CB, at distributor connection from coil, across points, 
> all 12v.
>
> Closed points, removed high tension lead from distributor and looked 
> for spark on opening points.  I get a good 3/16" spark.
>
> Checked point gap.  0.015".  Points look new.
>
> Replaced condenser.  I've heard they are not always ok.  No change.
>
> The distributor was gone thru recently, with new rotor and points.  
> Look clean, no carbon tracks, etc.
>
> Puff test on carbs.  OK.
>
> Any ideas?  Coil?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>
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    Easier to just disconnect it at the coil, if car's wiring is stock.
    Should be on the 'CB' or '+' terminal for a pos. gnd. car; white
    with black tracer.<br>
    <br>
    Do you get spark at the plugs when the engine is cranked? If not,
    it's probably a bad rotor (new or not).<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/1/2021 6:48 PM, George Haywood via
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        Mike,</div>
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        Try disconnecting the white wire from the battery switch in the
        boot.  This switch is notorious for grounding internally at the
        switch not allowing the engine to fire.  It turns over as if all
        is well, just won't start.</div>
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        Take care,</div>
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        <br>
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        George Haywood</div>
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        '65 bj8</div>
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          <p><font face="Tahoma">I'm stumped.  </font><font
              face="Tahoma">The Healey quit on me the other day (BJ8). 
              Was running great, then a slight miss for a mile or so,
              then very suddenly quit.  Tach went to zero instantly. 
              Fuel pump clicks after it has sat for awhile, engine turns
              over rapidly, but nothing happens, even with starter
              fluid.  Not a whimper.<br>
            </font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">So far I have:</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Checked for spark at a plug.  OK, but
              may not be under load.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Checked for fuel flow at filter exit. 
              Plenty.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Per instructions in the manual, opened
              points and checked for voltage at coil SW and CB, at
              distributor connection from coil, across points, all 
12v.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Closed points, removed high tension
              lead from distributor and looked for spark on opening
              points.  I get a good 3/16" spark.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Checked point gap.  0.015".  Points
              look new.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Replaced condenser.  I've heard they
              are not always ok.  No change.</font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">The distributor was gone thru recently,
              with new rotor and points.  Look clean, no carbon tracks,
              etc.<br>
            </font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Puff test on carbs.  OK.<br>
            </font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Any ideas?  Coil?<br>
            </font></p>
          <p><font face="Tahoma">Thanks, Mike</font></p>
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