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Re: [Healeys] 100/4 / A90 old style valve seals

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 / A90 old style valve seals
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:27:00 -0500
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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In the string about rubber valve seal shrouds Bob Spidell said:  "By no
means let crumbling rubber parts see the inside of an engine."

About a year back I dropped the oil pan on my 100 to replace the oil pump
and found numerous chunks of what seemed like very hard black plastic
distributed throughout the sump.  This was a head scratcher as I knew there
could be no plastic in the engine's interior yet there it was.  After
thinking about it further I decided that it could only have been the
remains of the rubber timing chain tensioner and sure enough when I pulled
the front cover I saw that the tensioner was non-existent and the chain
pretty loose.  I replaced the chain and tensioner--not an easy job--and
magically a chattering sound that had been appearing at certain
rpm's disappeared, no doubt a harmonic rattling of the loose timing chain.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:17 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Most mechanics favor modern 'top hat' style seals--I think they're one
> piece--unless, of course, Concours Gold requires blue smoke from the
> tailpipe.
>
> By no means let crumbling rubber parts see the inside of an engine.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 2/20/2021 9:28 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
> > All -
> >
> > On my A90 I am lapping one of the exhaust valves and this seal came
> > off the upper part of the valve guide.
> >
> > It seems this is an original style valve seal shroud which no one
> > sells.  I assume the best thing is to remove it and chuck it,
> > correct?  It's already half disintegrated and I'm not really worried
> > but would prefer to not  put it back on and have old rubber parts
> > getting into the oil.
> >
> > Am I correct to not put it back on?  No one seems to sell these.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In th=
e string about rubber valve seal shrouds Bob Spidell said:=C2=A0 &quot;By n=
o means let crumbling rubber parts see the inside of an engine.&quot;</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">About a year back I dropped the =
oil pan on my 100 to replace the oil pump and found numerous chunks of what=
 seemed like very hard black plastic distributed throughout the sump.=C2=A0=
 This was a head scratcher as I knew there could be no plastic in the engin=
e&#39;s interior yet there it was.=C2=A0 After thinking=C2=A0about it furth=
er I decided that it could only have been the remains of the rubber timing =
chain tensioner and sure enough when I pulled the front cover I saw that th=
e tensioner was non-existent=C2=A0and the chain pretty loose.=C2=A0 I repla=
ced the chain and tensioner--not an easy job--and magically a chattering so=
und that had been=C2=A0appearing at certain rpm&#39;s=C2=A0disappeared, no =
doubt a harmonic rattling of the loose timing chain.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12=
:17 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@com=
cast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">Most mechanics favor modern &#39;top hat&#39; style seals--I think =
they&#39;re one <br>
piece--unless, of course, Concours Gold requires blue smoke from the <br>
tailpipe.<br>
<br>
By no means let crumbling rubber parts see the inside of an engine.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2/20/2021 9:28 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; All -<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On my A90 I am lapping one of the exhaust valves and this seal came <b=
r>
&gt; off the upper part of the valve guide.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It seems this is an original style valve seal shroud which no one <br>
&gt; sells.=C2=A0 I assume the best thing is to remove it and chuck it, <br=
>
&gt; correct?=C2=A0 It&#39;s already half disintegrated and I&#39;m not rea=
lly worried <br>
&gt; but would prefer to not=C2=A0 put it back on and have old rubber parts=
 <br>
&gt; getting into the oil.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Am I correct to=C2=A0not put it back on?=C2=A0 No one seems to sell th=
ese.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Alan<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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