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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Another backfiring question
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:18:22 -0800
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I dunno if it can cause high RPM backfiring (I think it could), but the 
airflow on all (2-3) carbs has to be the same--or, at least, very 
close--at all throttle positions. This has to be checked off-idle, 
obviously, but if it's good at, say, 2,500RPM it should be good at all 
speeds; if not, you have to disconnect the throttle connect shaft to set 
them. I suppose a crack Brit-car mechanic can test with the recommended 
'hose-in-the-ear' technique--my ear hose is collecting dust 
somewhere--but I use a Uni-Syn.

To paraphrase the TV commercial we've all (probably) seen a thousand 
times: "If you don't have a carburettor synchronizer, get one."

Bob

On 1/29/2021 6:13 AM, healeyguy--- via Healeys wrote:
> Len and Listers
> Pushing the pin up to lift the piston is the start of the "test the 
> mixture setting" exercise. You begin the push, ever so slightly,  and 
> listen to the idling engine. The idle goes up.  What do you do next? 
> You continue to raise the pin  to see what happens. If the idle 
> continues to rise you know you are in a rich condition. If the idle 
> stops going up and starts to drop off the mixture is pretty close. If 
> the idle does not increase from the start you usually assume you are 
> in a lean condition.  This gets the carb mixture close at idle which 
> in theory means the carb is going to operate throughout the RPM range.
>
> There is one other assumption here, that being that the carbs is in 
> the same condition as new mounted on an engine operating as new. That 
> is when allot of other stuff comes into play.  The carb float bowl 
> items, needle/seat and float level  must be set correctly. Float must 
> not be leaking thus making it sink. Carb must have the correct main 
> needle and jet and they have to be installed and adjusted correctly. 
> Flutter at high RPM may indicate that the piston spring in the suction 
> chamber is weak or the incorrect spring installed. Ignition timing and 
> condition and setting of ignition points.
> The list goes on and on......
> P
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Berkowitz <DrBerkowitz@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Healeys] Another backfiring question
>
> Hi all
>
> Just finished repairing and reinstalling the carburetors on my BJ7. I 
> thought I had everything adjusted properly. According to my Haynes 
> Manuel the engine speed should increase slightly when you lift the 
> piston a very small amount. Mine does that.  My dwell angle is where 
> it needs to be and the car starts and idles nicely. Also sounds 
> beautiful when I punch the accelerator linkages. The problem is that 
> when I get it up to 60-70 mph I get what sounds like backfiring into 
> my carburetors. Also sounds like it doesnâ??t have a whole lot left in 
> the tank, so to speak. Does that sound like I am running too rich or 
> too lean?
>
> Len Berkowitz
>
>
>


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    I dunno if it can cause high RPM backfiring (I think it could), but
    the airflow on all (2-3) carbs has to be the same--or, at least,
    very close--at all throttle positions. This has to be checked
    off-idle, obviously, but if it's good at, say, 2,500RPM it should be
    good at all speeds; if not, you have to disconnect the throttle
    connect shaft to set them. I suppose a crack Brit-car mechanic can
    test with the recommended 'hose-in-the-ear' technique--my ear hose
    is collecting dust somewhere--but I use a Uni-Syn.<br>
    <br>
    To paraphrase the TV commercial we've all (probably) seen a thousand
    times: "If you don't have a carburettor synchronizer, get one."<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/2021 6:13 AM, healeyguy--- via
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            <div style="color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica,
              sans-serif;">Pushing the pin up to lift the piston is the
              start of the "test the mixture setting" exercise. You
              begin the push, ever so slightly,  and listen to the
              idling engine. The idle goes up.  What do you do next? You
              continue to raise the pin  to see what happens. If the
              idle continues to rise you know you are in a rich
              condition. If the idle stops going up and starts to drop
              off the mixture is pretty close. If the idle does not
              increase from the start you usually assume you are in a
              lean condition.  This gets the carb mixture close at idle
              which in theory means the carb is going to operate
              throughout the RPM range.  </div>
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            <div style="color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica,
              sans-serif;">There is one other assumption here, that
              being that the carbs is in the same condition as new
              mounted on an engine operating as new. That is when allot
              of other stuff comes into play.  The carb float bowl
              items, needle/seat and float level  must be set correctly.
              Float must not be leaking thus making it sink. Carb must
              have the correct main needle and jet and they have to be
              installed and adjusted correctly. <span style="font-size:
                10pt; background-color: transparent;">Flutter at high
                RPM may indicate that the piston spring in the suction
                chamber is weak or the incorrect spring installed.
                Ignition timing and condition and setting of ignition
                points.</span></div>
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                        Just finished repairing and reinstalling the
                        carburetors on my BJ7. I thought I had
                        everything adjusted properly. According to my
                        Haynes Manuel the engine speed should increase
                        slightly when you lift the piston a very small
                        amount. Mine does that.  My dwell angle is where
                        it needs to be and the car starts and idles
                        nicely. Also sounds beautiful when I punch the
                        accelerator linkages. The problem is that when I
                        get it up to 60-70 mph I get what sounds like
                        backfiring into my carburetors. Also sounds like
                        it doesnâ??t have a whole lot left in the tank, so
                        to speak. Does that sound like I am running too
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