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Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. =
Probably will go away when sitting on the ground.
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From: Roger Grace via Healeys=20
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM
To: 'healeylist'=20
Subject: [Healeys] Mystery noise
AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.
Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was =
something simple !
Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much =
wind and engine=20
noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and =
exhaust noise.
Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at=20
prop shaft speed.
At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.
So changed out the R wheel bearing.
No improvement
Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.
So changed out both universals.
Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.
No improvement.
Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that =
there was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.
So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but =
still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.
Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and =
cut engine. Tunnel cover off.
Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a =
rear wheel by hand or with an e motor.
Noise does appear to come from transmission.
To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't =
appear to be coming from diff area.
Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the =
inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.
About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced =
from=20
Moss ... ?) in the OD.
OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual=20
noises.
The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent =
with a bearing failure ?
Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a =
bad gear tooth etc.
OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there.
Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious.
So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?
Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft =
external to gearbox ?
or half shaft ?
Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.=20
Tkx=20
rg
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<DIV>Drive shaft hitting the handbrake cable when the car is jacked up. =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>Roger Grace via Healeys</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:27 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] Mystery noise</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be=20
serious.</DIV>
<DIV>Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it =
was=20
something simple !<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too =
much wind=20
and engine <BR>noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize =
engine=20
and exhaust noise.</DIV>
<DIV>Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at =
<BR>prop shaft speed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.</DIV>
<DIV>So changed out the R wheel bearing.</DIV>
<DIV>No improvement</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.</DIV>
<DIV>So changed out both universals.</DIV>
<DIV>Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.</DIV>
<DIV>No improvement.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was =
that there=20
was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter =
but=20
still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to =
N and=20
cut engine. Tunnel cover off.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by =
turning a=20
rear wheel by hand or with an e motor.<BR data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Noise does appear to come from transmission.<BR =
data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise =
doesn't=20
appear to be coming from diff area.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the =
inertia=20
of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing =
(sourced from=20
<BR>Moss ... ?) in the OD.</DIV>
<DIV>OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual=20
<BR>noises.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not =
consistent=20
<BR>with a bearing failure ?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is =
not a=20
bad gear tooth etc.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing =
obvious.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?</DIV>
<DIV>Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main =
shaft=20
external to gearbox ?<BR></DIV>
<DIV>or half shaft ?<BR data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more =
experienced=20
among us.=20
<DIV>Tkx </DIV>
<DIV>rg<BR></DIV></DIV>
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