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Roger
As you have said that you have changed both universals, is there chance
that you have reassembled the shaft out of phase? This is easily fitted
wrongly. Both universals have to be exactly in line and you should be able
to see small pointers engraved on each side of the sliding sections that
have to line up so that splines are correctly aligned.
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Roger Grace via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be serious.
> Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to find it was
> something simple !
>
> Notice it at low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind
> and engine
> noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhaust
> noise.
> Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but seems to be at
> prop shaft speed.
>
> At first thought that it was at wheel speed and from R side.
> So changed out the R wheel bearing.
> No improvement
>
> Then while looking below noted that universals had some play.
> So changed out both universals.
> Rear brakes not dragging and no binding of wheels.
> No improvement.
>
> Did listening on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there
> was a noise at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.
>
> So pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but
> still the pulsating noise while coasting in N.
>
> Sound file enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and
> cut engine. Tunnel cover off.
>
> Able to replicate noise with engine on axle stands but not by turning a
> rear wheel by hand or with an e motor.
>
> Noise does appear to come from transmission.
>
> To verify is not diff removed one of the rear seats and noise doesn't
> appear to be coming from diff area.
> Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as need the inertia
> of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.
>
> About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front bearing (sourced from
> Moss ... ?) in the OD.
> OD works fine and transmission shifts and works OK without unusual
> noises.
>
> The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consistent
> with a bearing failure ?
>
> Given that it occurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a
> bad gear tooth etc.
> OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there.
> Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious.
> So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?
> Or maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft
> external to gearbox ?
> or half shaft ?
>
> Any comments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.
> Tkx
> rg
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Roger<div><br></div><div>As you have said that you have ch=
anged both universals, is there chance that you have reassembled the shaft =
out of phase? This is easily fitted wrongly. Both universals have to be exa=
ctly in line and you should be able to see small pointers engraved=C2=A0on =
each side of the sliding sections that have to line up so that splines are =
correctly aligned.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Roger Grace via Heale=
ys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
><div><div>AH people - fighting a noise in my BJ8 that may or may not be se=
rious.</div><div>Reluctant to tear out the tranny unnecessarily and then to=
find it was something simple !<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Notice it at=
low speed (probably exists at driving speed but too much wind and engine <=
br>noise) if shift to neutral and cut ignition to minimize engine and exhau=
st noise.</div><div>Noise is pulsating - like a tire with a bad spot but se=
ems to be at <br>prop shaft speed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>At first thou=
ght that it was at wheel speed and from R side.</div><div>So changed out th=
e R wheel bearing.</div><div>No improvement</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Then=
while looking below noted that universals had some play.</div><div>So chan=
ged out both universals.</div><div>Rear brakes not dragging and no binding =
of wheels.</div><div>No improvement.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Did listeni=
ng on hoist with others listening too. Consensus was that there was a noise=
at rear OD area as well as the pulsating one.</div><div><br></div><div>So =
pulled annulus in situ and replaced both rear bearings. Quieter but still t=
he pulsating noise while coasting in N.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Sound fi=
le enclosed is a road test from about 15 MPH then shift to N and cut engine=
. Tunnel cover off.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Able to replicate noise wi=
th engine on axle stands but not by turning a rear wheel by hand or with an=
e motor.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Noise does appear to come from trans=
mission.<br></div><div><div><br></div><div>To verify is not diff removed on=
e of the rear seats and noise doesn't appear to be coming from diff are=
a.<br></div><div>Disconnecting prop shaft to isolate diff not possible as n=
eed the inertia of the rear wheels to produce the pulsing.</div></div><div>=
=C2=A0</div><div>About 5k miles ago I changed out the larger OD front beari=
ng (sourced from <br>Moss ... ?) in the OD.</div><div>OD works fine and tra=
nsmission shifts and works OK without unusual <br>noises.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>The pulsating/cyclical nature of the noise baffles me and not consi=
stent <br>with a bearing failure ?</div><div><br></div><div>Given that it o=
ccurs in neutral with no gears meshing it surely is not a bad gear tooth et=
c.<br></div><div>OD not engaged so it is locked so not likely there.<br></d=
iv><div>Removed gearbox top cover and did inspection - nothing obvious.<br>=
</div><div>So to my mind this only leaves the GB rear bearing ?</div><div>O=
r maybe a broken circlip or thrust washer and probably on main shaft extern=
al to gearbox ?<br></div><div>or half shaft ?<br></div><div><br></div>Any c=
omments/thoughts appreciated from the more experienced among us.<div>Tkx </=
div><div>rg<br></div></div></div>__________________________________________=
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