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Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump

To: "'warthodson@aol.com'" <warthodson@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump
From: gradea1@charter.net
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 16:43:29 +0000 CDJ+kAfjiarR4qz3W9yXRhVhh0gNDiMHMVeVcipyh6ohXkM5iqHCmOs1o0mk9f764ioLyXz8rKTYUQGNreMaThFmPeC9JJ+uYyxhewd2K2Z525S6p6gpXGyX 0cqQkIeP0tAo/N1KlwUQ1oj9b0c4rLcja0t/Xd1MgchZ2z0PEWpmFOQ9/+gVdfpzOEJoCQzPhfiiV3BNeidOdg==
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could we use copper or aluminum clothes pins? Hank=0A=0A=09-------------=
----------------------------From: "warthodson--- via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "=
ab7vf@yahoo.com", "eyera3000@gmail.com", "healey.nut@gmail.com"=0ACc: "e=
ditorgary@aol.com", "healeys@autox.team.net"=0ASent: Wednesday June 24 2=
020 8:32:28AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump=0A=
=0A Jim, A cloths pin is 1/2" wide. Not enough insulation & definitely=
=0Anot a "heat sink". Gary Hodson=0A=0A -----Original Message-----=0A Fr=
om: jim =0A To: eyera3000@gmail.com ; healey.nut@gmail.com ; warthodson@=
aol.com=0A Cc: Editorgary@aol.com ; healeys@autox.team.net =0A Sent: Mon=
, Jun 22, 2020 12:42 pm=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fue=
l Pump=0A=0A     Turning liquid (gasoline) into vaper or gas (phase chan=
ge from=0Aliquid to gas) requires HEAT input .Or pressure drop.....Insul=
ate from=0Aheat, no vapor =0A Jim=0A=0A      On Monday, June 22, 2020, 1=
0:21:10 AM PDT, warthodson--- via=0AHealeys  wrote:  =0A=0A    Explain h=
ow they work, please. Gary Hodson=0A=0A -----Original Message-----=0A Fr=
om: i erbs =0A To: Alan Seigrist =0A Cc: Editorgary@aol.com; Ahealey hel=
p =0A Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 10:46 am=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty=
 tapping of Fuel Pump=0A=0A    wooden clothes pins worked great when I l=
ived in Los Angeles.  =0A   On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7:09 PM Alan Seigrist=
  wrote:=0A    Hi Gary - =0A If you start hearing the pump run really qu=
ickly, it can be=0Aindicative of vapor lock getting back into the fuel l=
ine... can happen=0Aat the end of long trips. It's because the fuel star=
ts vaporizing=0Aaround where the line goes into the floats, and the floa=
t jet then is=0Ano longer cutting off fuel flow because it is pushing va=
por into the=0Afloat bowls, which leaks out the overflow tube. As long a=
s your car is=0Arunning it should be okay, you might use more fuel than=
 normal. Try=0Awiring a piece of wood to the incoming fuel line - this i=
s an old=0Atrick with Atlantics to act as a heat sink on hot days and st=
op vapor=0Alock on the Atlantics which use mechanical fuel pumps. =0A Be=
st, =0A Alan  =0A  On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:12 AM editorgary--- via Hea=
leys  wrote:=0A   Yesterday I took my Healey BN& out for its first good=
 run of the=0Aseason -- 75 miles of southern Oregon backroads -- with ou=
r local=0ARogue Euro Car Group. Everything was terrific from start to fi=
nish.=0ACar started on the first push of the button after sitting for si=
x=0Aweeks, ran smoothly from start to finish, never faltered in restarts=
,=0Aeverything nominal. =0A Except that, towards the end of the run on a=
 pretty hot day (in mid=0A90s though the car never ran warm all day) as=
 I was cruising along=0Aabout 40 mph, the fuel pump started tapping at a=
 high rate of speed=0Aand pretty continuously -- certain enough so I cou=
ld hear it behind=0Ame. I have a standard original-spec points-style fue=
l pump, purchased=0Anew from Moss about 10 years ago and running without=
 any issues every=0Asince. =0A=0A  Any thoughts from anyone -- could it=
 just have been the heat? As=0Anoted, the car never missed a beat, so fu=
el was getting through the=0Acarbs smoothly at all times. =0A=0A  Anyone=
? =0A  Gary Anderson =0A   _____________________________________________=
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<html><body>could we use copper or aluminum clothes pins?&nbsp; Hank<br>=
<br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>------------------------=
-----------------</p>From: "warthodson--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.te=
am.net><br>To: "ab7vf@yahoo.com", "eyera3000@gmail.com", "healey.nut@gma=
il.com"<br>Cc: "editorgary@aol.com", "healeys@autox.team.net"<br>Sent: W=
ednesday June 24 2020 8:32:28AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tappin=
g of Fuel Pump<br><br>=0A<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Comic Sans=
 MS, sans-serif;">Jim,=0A<div>A cloths pin is 1/2" wide. Not enough insu=
lation &amp; definitely not a "heat sink".</div>=0A=0A<div>Gary Hodson<b=
r>=0A<br>=0A<br>=0A=0A<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-siz=
e:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>=0AFrom: jim &lt;ab7vf=
@yahoo.com&gt;<br>=0ATo: eyera3000@gmail.com &lt;eyera3000@gmail.com&gt;=
; healey.nut@gmail.com &lt;healey.nut@gmail.com&gt;; warthodson@aol.com<=
br>=0ACc: Editorgary@aol.com &lt;editorgary@aol.com&gt;; healeys@autox.t=
eam.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>=0ASent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 12:=
42 pm<br>=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump<br>=0A<b=
r>=0A=0A<div id=3D"yiv5298583794">=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv5298583794=
ydp2efa62d5yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">=0A<div></div>=0A=0A        =0A<=
div dir=3D"ltr">Turning liquid (gasoline) into vaper or gas (phase chang=
e from liquid to gas) requires HEAT input .Or pressure drop.....Insulate=
 from heat, no vapor</div>=0A=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v>=0A=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A<div><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A        =0A        </div>=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv5=
298583794ydpa53464eeyahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyahoo_qu=
oted_3066781145">=0A            =0A<div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica=
 Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">=0A=
                =0A                =0A<div class=3D"yiv5298583794yqt1700=
468686" id=3D"yiv5298583794yqt92181">=0A<div>=0A                    On M=
onday, June 22, 2020, 10:21:10 AM PDT, warthodson--- via Healeys &lt;hea=
leys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:=0A                </div>=0A=0A          =
      =0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A                =0A<div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A                =0A<div>=0A<div id=3D"yiv529=
8583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301">=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"color:black;fo=
nt-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;li=
ne-height:normal;font-family:Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;font-size-adjust:=
none;">Explain how they work, please.&nbsp;=0A=0A<div>Gary Hodson<br cle=
ar=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A=0A<div st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br clear=3D"none">=0AFrom: i erbs &lt;eyera3000@gmai=
l.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=0ATo: Alan Seigrist &lt;healey.nut@gmail.co=
m&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=0ACc: Editorgary@aol.com; Ahealey help &lt;heal=
eys@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=0ASent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 10:4=
6 am<br clear=3D"none">=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel=
 Pump<br clear=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv=
5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301yqt7016957162" id=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa=
53464eeyiv9494751301yqt91183">=0A<div id=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9=
494751301">=0A=0A<div>=0A=0A<div>wooden clothes pins worked great when I=
 lived in Los Angeles.&nbsp;</div>=0A=0A<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<div cl=
ass=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301gmail_quote">=0A=0A<div clas=
s=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301yqt0151343076" id=3D"yiv529858=
3794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301yqtfd50363">=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv529858379=
4ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7=
:09 PM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:healey.nut@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@=
gmail.com">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
=0A=0A</div>=0A=0A<blockquote class=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv949475=
1301gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751=
301yqt0151343076" id=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301yqtfd81016"=
>=0A=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Gary -=0A=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=
=0A=0A=0A<div>If you start hearing the pump run really quickly, it can b=
e indicative of vapor lock getting back into the fuel line... can happen=
 at the end of long trips.&nbsp; It's because the fuel starts vaporizing=
 around where the line goes into the floats, and the float jet then is n=
o longer cutting off fuel flow because it is pushing vapor into the floa=
t bowls, which leaks out the overflow tube.&nbsp; As long as your car is=
 running it should be okay, you might use more fuel than normal.&nbsp; T=
ry wiring a piece of wood to the incoming fuel line - this is an old tri=
ck with Atlantics to act as a heat sink on hot days and stop vapor lock=
 on the Atlantics which use mechanical fuel pumps.</div>=0A=0A=0A=0A<div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A<div>Best,</div>=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><=
br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A<div>Alan</div>=0A=0A</div>=0A=0A<br=
 clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv949475130=
1gmail_quote">=0A=0A<div class=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301g=
mail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:12 AM editorgary--- via=
 Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A=0A<=
blockquote class=3D"yiv5298583794ydpa53464eeyiv9494751301gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex;">=0A=0A=0A<div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;f=
ont-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:10pt;line-height:normal;=
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none;">=0A=0A=
=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Yesterday I took my Healey BN&amp; out for its=
 first good run of the season -- 75 miles of southern Oregon backroads -=
- with our local Rogue Euro Car Group. Everything was terrific from star=
t to finish. Car started on the first push of the button after sitting f=
or six weeks, ran smoothly from start to finish, never faltered in resta=
rts, everything nominal.</font></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=
=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">=0AExcept that, towards the end of the run on=
 a pretty hot day (in mid 90s though the car never ran warm all day) as=
 I was cruising along about 40 mph, the fuel pump started tapping at a h=
igh rate of speed and pretty continuously -- certain enough so I could h=
ear it behind me. I have a standard original-spec points-style fuel pump=
, purchased new from Moss about 10 years ago and running without any iss=
ues every since. <br clear=3D"none">=0A</font></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<d=
iv><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">=0A</font></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Any thoughts from anyone -- could it just have=
 been the heat? As noted, the car never missed a beat, so fuel was getti=
ng through the carbs smoothly at all times. <br clear=3D"none">=0A</font=
></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">=0A</f=
ont></div>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Anyone?</font></div>=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">=0A</font></d=
iv>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Gary Anderson</font></div>=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none">=0A</font></div>=
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