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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump
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Lets first assume we are talking about a stock Austin-Healey. If it takes 5=
psi, you will never reach that with an SU fuel pump.=C2=A0Depending on the =
model they put out approx. 2.8 psi or 3.8 psi.Gary Hodson


-----Original Message-----
From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com>; eyera3000@gmail.com <eyera3000=
@gmail.com>; healey.nut@gmail.com <healey.nut@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 12:38 pm
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump

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shed a 10 minute dash to the past on the internet looking at the clothes pi=
n remedy.=C2=A0 We might as well start talking about motor oil again. Hope =
not!!!!All kinds of claims and reasons why clothespins works or not. Lets r=
un this bit past the mechanics/engineers/experienced AH owners (that=E2=80=
=99s all of you) out there. How much fuel pump pressure does it take to ove=
rcome the bubble caused by the vapor lock? It was suggested it only takes 5=
 PSI.P =C2=A0Sent from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0From: warthodson--- via He=
aleys
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 1:21 PM
To: eyera3000@gmail.com; healey.nut@gmail.com
Cc: Editorgary@aol.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump =C2=A0Explain how they =
work, please.=C2=A0 Gary Hodson

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From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Cc: Editorgary@aol.com; Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 10:46 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pumpwooden clothes pins work=
ed great when I lived in Los Angeles.=C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7:0=
9 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gary -  =C2=A0If you start hearing the pump run really quickly, it can b=
e indicative of vapor lock getting back into the fuel line... can happen at=
 the end of long trips.=C2=A0 It's because the fuel starts vaporizing aroun=
d where the line goes into the floats, and the float jet then is no longer =
cutting off fuel flow because it is pushing vapor into the float bowls, whi=
ch leaks out the overflow tube.=C2=A0 As long as your car is running it sho=
uld be okay, you might use more fuel than normal.=C2=A0 Try wiring a piece =
of wood to the incoming fuel line - this is an old trick with Atlantics to =
act as a heat sink on hot days and stop vapor lock on the Atlantics which u=
se mechanical fuel pumps. =C2=A0Best, =C2=A0Alan =C2=A0On Mon, Jun 22, 2020=
 at 9:12 AM editorgary--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
Yesterday I took my Healey BN& out for its first good run of the season -- =
75 miles of southern Oregon backroads -- with our local Rogue Euro Car Grou=
p. Everything was terrific from start to finish. Car started on the first p=
ush of the button after sitting for six weeks, ran smoothly from start to f=
inish, never faltered in restarts, everything nominal.
Except that, towards the end of the run on a pretty hot day (in mid 90s tho=
ugh the car never ran warm all day) as I was cruising along about 40 mph, t=
he fuel pump started tapping at a high rate of speed and pretty continuousl=
y -- certain enough so I could hear it behind me. I have a standard origina=
l-spec points-style fuel pump, purchased new from Moss about 10 years ago a=
nd running without any issues every since.  =C2=A0Any thoughts from anyone =
-- could it just have been the heat? As noted, the car never missed a beat,=
 so fuel was getting through the carbs smoothly at all times.  =C2=A0Anyone=
? =C2=A0Gary Anderson =C2=A0_______________________________________________

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;">Lets first=
 assume we are talking about a stock Austin-Healey. If it takes 5psi, you w=
ill never reach that with an SU fuel pump.&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2pt;">Depending on the model they put out approx. 2.8 psi or 3.8 psi.</span=
>
<div>Gary Hodson<br>

<div><br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Perry &lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt;; eyera3000@gmail.com &lt;=
eyera3000@gmail.com&gt;; healey.nut@gmail.com &lt;healey.nut@gmail.com&gt;<=
br>
Cc: Editorgary@aol.com &lt;Editorgary@aol.com&gt;; healeys@autox.team.net &=
lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 12:38 pm<br>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal">I just finished a 10 minute dash to t=
he past on the internet looking at the clothes pin remedy.&nbsp; We might a=
s well start talking about motor oil again. Hope not!!!!</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal">All kinds of claims and reasons why c=
lothespins works or not. </div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal">Lets run this bit past the mechanics/=
engineers/experienced AH owners (that=E2=80=99s all of you) out there. How =
much fuel pump pressure does it take to overcome the bubble caused by the v=
apor lock? It was suggested it only takes 5 PSI.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal">P</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=
=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</div>

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>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>warth=
odson--- via Healeys</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 22, 20=
20 1:21 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:eye=
ra3000@gmail.com">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
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et" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.=
team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tappin=
g of Fuel Pump</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:Sans;color:black;">Explain how they work, please.&nbsp; </span></div=
>

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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;color:black;">Gary Hodson<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>

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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: i erbs &lt;eyera3000@gmail.com&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none">To: Alan Seigrist &lt;healey.nut@gmail.com&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">Cc: Editorgary@aol.com; Ahealey help &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2020 10:46 am<br clear=3D"none">Sub=
ject: Re: [Healeys] Tapitty tapping of Fuel Pump</span></div>

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<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">wooden clothes pins worked great when I liv=
ed in Los Angeles.&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

<div>
<div id=3D"yiv8437299989yqtfd50363">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7:09 PM Alan Seigrist=
 &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";>healey.nut@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Hi Gary - </span></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">If you start hearing the pump run really qu=
ickly, it can be indicative of vapor lock getting back into the fuel line..=
. can happen at the end of long trips.&nbsp; It's because the fuel starts v=
aporizing around where the line goes into the floats, and the float jet the=
n is no longer cutting off fuel flow because it is pushing vapor into the f=
loat bowls, which leaks out the overflow tube.&nbsp; As long as your car is=
 running it should be okay, you might use more fuel than normal.&nbsp; Try =
wiring a piece of wood to the incoming fuel line - this is an old trick wit=
h Atlantics to act as a heat sink on hot days and stop vapor lock on the At=
lantics which use mechanical fuel pumps.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Best,</span></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Alan</span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:12 AM editorgary-=
-- via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Yesterday I took my Healey BN&amp; out for =
its first good run of the season -- 75 miles of southern Oregon backroads -=
- with our local Rogue Euro Car Group. Everything was terrific from start t=
o finish. Car started on the first push of the button after sitting for six=
 weeks, ran smoothly from start to finish, never faltered in restarts, ever=
ything nominal.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none">Except that, towards the=
 end of the run on a pretty hot day (in mid 90s though the car never ran wa=
rm all day) as I was cruising along about 40 mph, the fuel pump started tap=
ping at a high rate of speed and pretty continuously -- certain enough so I=
 could hear it behind me. I have a standard original-spec points-style fuel=
 pump, purchased new from Moss about 10 years ago and running without any i=
ssues every since. </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Any thoughts from anyone -- could it just h=
ave been the heat? As noted, the car never missed a beat, so fuel was getti=
ng through the carbs smoothly at all times. </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Anyone?</span></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8437299989MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Gary Anderson</span></div>
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