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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw

To: HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Broken Screw
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:17:19 -0700
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I'm not suggesting you use a nut. Just weld a series of tacks to the end of
the broken off bolt.  The heat from tacking the welds is usually sufficient
to do the trick. Build up a little tower of tack welds and use needle nose
vice grips to twist the bolt out.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:57 PM HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think what Richard is suggesting is to find a nut with an inner diameter
> smaller than the bolt diameter, then MIGing it through the nut opening to
> the bolt and using the nut to turn it out  I'd want to heat up the bolt
> first as it looks like it's probably tightly fused by paint and probably
> rust.  OR ... it looks to be about .38 size.  Just shoot it out of there.
>
> Rick Neville
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:25 PM richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>> I just looked at your photo and I would like to add a correction.  The
>> broken off "screw" you described looks more like a broken off bolt to me.
>> You can safely put a two second first tack on the end of that one to get
>> things started. .
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Broken Screw
>> To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
>>
>>
>> This is what I would do. Using your MIG welder, put a tack weld on the
>> end of the screw.  A short one second tac for the first one . Then stack
>> another tack or two  or three or four on top of that. Using a pair of vise
>> grips, twist the tacked on tacks. It may easily break off the first time or
>> even the second time. That is a good thing because you only want to tack to
>> the end of the screw and nothing more. The heat will break the rust bond
>> and the screw will come out easily.
>> Drilling and attempting to use easy outs are a waste of time and most
>> certainly you will bugger up the threads no matter have meticulous you
>> are.  Been there and done that many times.
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:05 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Went to install the rebuilt horns on my BN2 last night and could only
>>> screw one on the cross member of the frame.  The other mounting hole were a
>>> problem.  Somewhere, sometime in the past whoever removed the horns snapped
>>> one of the screws off flush with the frame.  Best way to get this out?
>>> Must have been corroded in place to snap off like that.
>>> Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m not suggesting you use a nut. Just weld a series o=
f tacks to the end of the broken off bolt.=C2=A0 The heat from tacking the =
welds is usually sufficient to do the trick. Build up a little tower of tac=
k welds and use needle nose vice grips to twist the bolt out.<br></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Ma=
y 26, 2020 at 2:57 PM HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"=
>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think what Richard is suggesting is =
to find a nut with an inner diameter smaller than the bolt diameter, then M=
IGing it through the nut opening to the bolt and using the nut to turn it o=
ut=C2=A0 I&#39;d want to heat up the bolt first as it looks like it&#39;s p=
robably tightly fused by paint and probably rust.=C2=A0 OR ... it looks to =
be about .38 size.=C2=A0 Just shoot it out of there.<div><br></div><div>Ric=
k Neville</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:25 PM richard mayor &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Mike,</div><div>I just looked at your photo and I would=
 like to add a correction.=C2=A0 The broken off &quot;screw&quot; you descr=
ibed looks more like a broken off bolt to me. You can safely put a two seco=
nd first tack on the end of that one to get things started. . <br></div><di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">----=
------ Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername" d=
ir=3D"auto">richard mayor</b> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyr=
acer466@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><b=
r>Date: Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Broken Scre=
w<br>To: Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>This is what I would do. Using your MIG welder, put a tack weld =
on the end of the screw.=C2=A0 A short one second tac for the first one . T=
hen stack another tack or two=C2=A0 or three or four on top of that. Using =
a pair of vise grips, twist the tacked on tacks. It may easily break off th=
e first time or even the second time. That is a good thing because you only=
 want to tack to the end of the screw and nothing more. The heat will break=
 the rust bond and the screw will come out easily. <br></div><div>Drilling =
and attempting to use easy outs are a waste of time and most certainly you =
will bugger up the threads no matter have meticulous you are.=C2=A0 Been th=
ere and done that many times.=C2=A0 </div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:05 PM =
Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new=
 roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"gm=
ail-m_99978679054043928gmail-m_-6575928513109162508m_-2536661137059266094gm=
ail-m_-7632567625744933143ydp2beb8ffbyiv4852190350"><div><div style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-s=
ize:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr">Went to install the rebuilt horns on my BN2 last=
 night and could only screw one on the cross member of the frame.=C2=A0 The=
 other mounting hole were a problem.=C2=A0 Somewhere, sometime in the past =
whoever removed the horns snapped one of the screws off flush with the fram=
e.=C2=A0 Best way to get this out?=C2=A0 Must have been corroded in place t=
o snap off like that.=C2=A0 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div>___________________________________________=
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