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Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets

To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>, 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' <ynotink@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets
From: Perry via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 18:12:54 -0400
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In a land far, far away, 2500 miles west of California=E2=80=A6a land of su=
nshine and rain.  Little English beasts , known as Austin Healeys, used to =
inhabit the hills and valleys, mountains and shorelines. The sun kept them =
warm, the rain and salty air often moistened their lightly protected steel =
underbellies and the dreaded enemy of the beasts brought upon them a scourg=
e, RUST. On many occasions during four decades living among the beasts, in =
the land of sunshine and rain, I witnessed the results of the scourge. In s=
everal cases the scourge caused body parts to fall off the beasts, includin=
g the shiny steel bars that originally graced the front and rear of the bea=
st.=20

The rear bar had more protection but the front suffered from over exposure.=
  The little retaining tubes that faithfully held the shiny bar to the unde=
rbelly would succumb to the scourge and the bar would eventually droop and =
the death rattle could be heard as the beasts would traverse the land of su=
nshine and rain.=20

Fortunately there was several hearty souls that cared for the beasts in the=
ir time of testing and trials. This was in the days before the Master, Kilm=
artin, recreated every part of the beasts that had contracted the scourge. =
 Back then, crude substitutes for the original wonderfully formed underbell=
ies where made to replace the damaged areas and re-establish the connection=
s between the underbelly and the shiny bars supports.=20

As stories go, the little beasts would let out a small puff of smoke just t=
o let everyone know how glad they were for the attention received. A smile =
and a shiny bar=E2=80=A6.what more could we ask for, except maybe an electr=
ician.=20

Hope everyone is safe and well in this time of difficulty for many. =F0=9F=
=98=8A
Perry



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From: Bruce Steele
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:04 PM
To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'; 'Tom'; 'Healey Mail List'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets

I would think it would take some serious over-tightening to break the tube =
loose.=C2=A0 Probably strip the threads before that would happen.=C2=A0 I c=
hased the threads from both sides when I took my bumper off and I=E2=80=99v=
e had no problems.=C2=A0 My current configuration has the chin scoop on the=
 inside of the rails and the tow eyes sandwiched between the outside of the=
 rails and the aux light brackets.

Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM =
B LAWRENCE
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:45 AM
To: Tom <ah3000me@gmail.com>; Healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets

=E2=80=9Cdo the welds ever break and ...=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

Highly unlikely. The tubes are of a heavy gauge and are welded all the way =
around on both ends. They are not just spot welded. If you are concerned th=
at the bolt may be too tight going into the tube you can clean the thread w=
ith a 3/8=E2=80=9D UNF (SAE) thread tap.

Bill Lawrence=C2=A0
BN1 #554


From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom <ah3000me@g=
mail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets=20
=C2=A0
Mike, Skip, Bruce,=20

Thank you!=C2=A0 =C2=A0

Internally thread tube, welded to the frame...=C2=A0 do the welds ever brea=
k and the tubes just turn inside the frame?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sounds like somethi=
ng I'll leave well enough alone!

- Tom

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:12 PM Tom <ah3000me@gmail.com> wrote:

How do the brackets that support the BJ8 front bumper attach to the frame?=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Is there one long bolt that goes clear thru the frame?=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Or are there captive nuts inside the frame?=C2=A0=C2=A0

thanks,
Tom



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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>In a land far, far away, 2500 miles =
west of California=E2=80=A6a land of sunshine and rain.=C2=A0 Little Englis=
h beasts , known as Austin Healeys, used to inhabit the hills and valleys, =
mountains and shorelines. The sun kept them warm, the rain and salty air of=
ten moistened their lightly protected steel underbellies and the dreaded en=
emy of the beasts brought upon them a scourge, RUST. On many occasions duri=
ng four decades living among the beasts, in the land of sunshine and rain, =
I witnessed the results of the scourge. In several cases the scourge caused=
 body parts to fall off the beasts, including the shiny steel bars that ori=
ginally graced the front and rear of the beast. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The rear bar had more protection bu=
t the front suffered from over exposure.=C2=A0 The little retaining tubes t=
hat faithfully held the shiny bar to the underbelly would succumb to the sc=
ourge and the bar would eventually droop and the death rattle could be hear=
d as the beasts would traverse the land of sunshine and rain. </p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Fortunately there wa=
s several hearty souls that cared for the beasts in their time of testing a=
nd trials. This was in the days before the Master, Kilmartin, recreated eve=
ry part of the beasts that had contracted the scourge.=C2=A0 Back then, cru=
de substitutes for the original wonderfully formed underbellies where made =
to replace the damaged areas and re-establish the connections between the u=
nderbelly and the shiny bars supports. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As stories go, the little beasts would let o=
ut a small puff of smoke just to let everyone know how glad they were for t=
he attention received. A smile and a shiny bar=E2=80=A6.what more could we =
ask for, except maybe an electrician. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hope everyone is safe and well in this time o=
f difficulty for many. <span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-ser=
if'>&#128522;</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Perry</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"htt=
ps://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-bor=
der-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0i=
n'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>Bruce Steele</a><br><b>Sent: </b>=
Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.co=
m">'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com";>'Tom'</a=
>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>'Healey Mail List'</a><br><b>S=
ubject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Bumper support brackets</p></div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I would think it would take some=
 serious over-tightening to break the tube loose.&nbsp; Probably strip the =
threads before that would happen.&nbsp; I chased the threads from both side=
s when I took my bumper off and I=E2=80=99ve had no problems.&nbsp; My curr=
ent configuration has the chin scoop on the inside of the rails and the tow=
 eyes sandwiched between the outside of the rails and the aux light bracket=
s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Brea, CA=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet=
 MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none=
;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><b>From:</b> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:45 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> Tom &lt;ah3000me@gmail.com&gt;; Healey Mail List &lt;healey=
s@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Bumper support bracke=
ts<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times N=
ew Roman",serif'>=E2=80=9Cdo the welds ever break and ...=E2=80=9D&nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Times New Roman",serif'>Highly unlikely. The tubes are of a heavy gauge and=
 are welded all the way around on both ends. They are not just spot welded.=
 If you are concerned that the bolt may be too tight going into the tube yo=
u can clean the thread with a 3/8=E2=80=9D UNF (SAE) thread tap.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman",serif'>Bill Lawrence&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"=
,serif'>BN1 #554<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-al=
ign:center'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",s=
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2C76.C8364050"></span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color=
:black'> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>heal=
eys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Tom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
h3000me@gmail.com">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May=
 14, 2020 12:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Healey Mail List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Bumper support brackets</span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif=
'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mike, Sk=
ip, Bruce, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Thank you!&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",=
serif'>Internally thread tube, welded to the frame...&nbsp; do the welds ev=
er break and the tubes just turn inside the frame?&nbsp; &nbsp;Sounds like =
something I'll leave well enough alone!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Ro=
man",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>- Tom<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif'>On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:12 PM Tom &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:ah3000me@gmail.com">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0p=
t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right=
:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-le=
ft:4.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",ser=
if'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
rgin-left:4.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Rom=
an",serif'>How do the brackets that support the BJ8 front bumper attach to =
the frame?&nbsp; &nbsp;Is there one long bolt that goes clear thru the fram=
e?&nbsp; &nbsp;Or are there captive nuts inside the frame?&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt=
'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-lef=
t:4.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",seri=
f'>thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
rgin-left:4.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Rom=
an",serif'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p=
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bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&=
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