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I coat the lifters and cam liberally with Crane Cam Lube upon assembly and
I put VR1 no synthetic in the pan by pumping it in through a "T" on the
the oil pressure line.
When pressure is established I crank the engine for several 20 second
bursts about 5 minutes apart ensuring that oil pressure is well established
each time.
I then start the engine and run it up to 12 - 1500 RPM for about 15 - 20
seconds.
I let everything cool down (5 - 10 minutes) and do the same again 2 or 3
times.
Only after that do I start running the engine up to temperature.
My theory is that it's important to prevent the high spots on the cam and
lifters from getting hot until they have had a chance to "bed in".
It works for me but as they say ... results may vary!!
M
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2:45 PM Andy Sneddon <sneddon@xsmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>
>
>
> Could you elaborate on what steps you take to =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=9Cconditio=
n them very
> carefully on initial start=E2=80=9D.
>
>
>
> As some-one who is approaching first start-up after rebuild, anything I
> can do to help prolong engine life is of interest.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael
> Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 18:33
> *To: *Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Cc: *<healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure
>
>
>
> "How did the cam and lifters look (oblique ZDDP reference)?"
>
> Another very good question ...
>
> Again completely undamaged.
>
> After earlier suffering a serious lifter and cam failure in that engine I
> had taken enormous care to condition them very carefully on initial start
> up with the replacements and used VR1 non synthetic oil exclusively
> thereafter.
>
> This experience and others have me pretty well convinced that lifter/cam
> problems are usually initiated on first start up of a new engine and if
> they get through the first few minutes of running they will last well.
>
> BTW I've sold all my holdings in Valvoline =F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020, 1:15 PM Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> How did the cam and lifters look (oblique ZDDP reference)?
>
> Bob
>
> On 5/10/2020 10:05 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> Good question Roger.
>
> Amazingly the crank journals had some oil residue burned onto them which
> easily polished off. This was a nitrided crank.
>
> The shells themselves definitely were also in "do not reuse" condition
> with burned oil on the surfaces but when checked with "Plastigage" were
> still within spec.
>
> Sure blew me away!!
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I coat the lifters and cam liberally with=
Crane Cam Lube upon assembly and I put VR1 no synthetic in the pan by pump=
ing it in through=C2=A0 a "T" on the the oil pressure line. <br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-s=
erif;font-size:small">When pressure is established I crank the engine for s=
everal 20 second bursts about 5 minutes apart ensuring that oil pressure is=
well established each time.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I then start the engine =
and run it up to 12 - 1500 RPM for about 15 - 20 seconds.<br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">I let everything cool down (5 - 10 minutes) and do the same again =
2 or 3 times. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Only after that do I start running=
the engine up to temperature.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">My theory is that it&#=
39;s important to prevent the high spots on the cam and lifters from gettin=
g hot until they have had a chance to "bed in". <br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small">It works for me but as they say ... results may vary!!</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:co=
mic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2=
:45 PM Andy Sneddon <<a href=3D"mailto:sneddon@xsmail.com";>sneddon@xsmai=
l.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-3269080505824228770WordSect=
ion1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Michael,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span> Could you elaborate on what steps you take to =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=9C</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f;color:black">condition them very carefully on initial start=E2=80=9D.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.5=
pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> As some-one who i=
s approaching first start-up after rebuild, anything I can do to help prolo=
ng engine life is of interest.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;=
color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black=
">Andy</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;bord=
er-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm=
"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">From=
: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Healeys <<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounce=
s@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:=
michaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><=
br><b>Date: </b>Sunday, 10 May 2020 at 18:33<br><b>To: </b>Bob Spidell <=
<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.=
net</a>><br><b>Cc: </b><<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heale=
ys] Oil Pressure<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"How did the c=
am and lifters look (oblique ZDDP reference)?"</span><u></u><u></u></p=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial",sans-serif">Another very good question=C2=A0 ...=C2=A0</span=
><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Again completely undamag=
ed.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Aft=
er earlier suffering a serious lifter and cam failure in that engine I=C2=
=A0 had taken enormous care to condition them very carefully on initial sta=
rt up with the replacements and used VR1 non synthetic oil exclusively ther=
eafter.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This experi=
ence and others have me pretty well convinced that lifter/cam problems are =
usually initiated on first start up of a new engine and if they get through=
the first few minutes of running they will last well.</span><u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial",sans-serif">BTW I've sold all my holdings in Va=
lvoline </span><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Apple Color=
Emoji"">=F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f">M</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, May 10, 2020, 1:15 PM Bob Spidell, &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comca=
st.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-co=
lor:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:no=
ne none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0c=
m 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Michael,<br><br>How did the cam and lifters look (o=
blique ZDDP reference)?<br><br>Bob<br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 5/10/2020 10:05 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"comic =
sans ms"">Good question Roger. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"comic s=
ans ms"">Amazingly the crank journals had some oil residue burned onto=
them which easily polished off. This was a nitrided crank.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:"comic sans ms"">The shells themselves definitely were =
also in "do not reuse" condition with burned oil on the surfaces =
but when checked with "Plastigage" were still within spec. <u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12pt;font-family:"comic sans ms"">Sure blew me away!!<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12pt;font-family:"comic sans ms""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:"comic sans ms"">M<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
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