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Good question Roger.
Amazingly the crank journals had some oil residue burned onto them which
easily polished off. This was a nitrided crank.
The shells themselves definitely were also in "do not reuse" condition with
burned oil on the surfaces but when checked with "Plastigage" were still
within spec.
Sure blew me away!!
M
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:44 PM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
> Michael - yes point taken; however your narrative didn't say what those BE
> journals looked like when you eventually stripped that engine !
>
> My manual says 7.25 litres capacity including the filter.
> Added another qrt of oil, so I now have 7.6 liters in my engine.
> Dip stick right on max. graduation mark
> Same story yesterday after a long run with oil at about 175F
> Yes do have an oil cooler but don't think that the cooler oil drains when
> I drain the pan.
>
> My thinking is that the capacity and style of the oil pan or gasket
> thickness does not matter as long as you fill up to the dip stick marks.
> The dip stick tube length is the reference that sets the correct internal
> oil level. Also the marks on the stick
>
> I note that there are 2 different sticks referenced in the Moss catalog.
> Mine is the straight one.
>
> So what gives ?
> Are there perhaps different sticks and tubes out there ?
> Mine looks stock but you never know ...
>
> Or maybe other cars also do this but unnoticed and ignored ....
> rg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:47 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure
>
> Hi Roger, before panicking too much about your short lived zero pressure
> issue read through this article that I wrote about 14 years ago regarding
> oil pressure issues; it may set your mind at ease.
>
> https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-raising-the-suspension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/
>
> M
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:24 PM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> '67 BJ8 with recently rebuilt engine and cast alloy oil pan by PO.
>> 7 Qts VR1shows marginally above top dip stick mark.
>> Oil cooler
>> Normal running and idle OP is fine
>>
>> Would welcome comments from more experienced listers.
>> When oil is really hot - after a run after and after moderate hard
>> braking (not panic stop) OP falls to zero for about 2-3 secs before
>> recovering to normal - around 48 psi. Not noticed when oil is cold.
>>
>> My thoughts:
>>
>> Are there differences in the length of the pump input strainer assembly ?
>>
>> Maybe should be using more oil with the extra oil cooler volume ? Maybe
>> this dip stick is incorrect for this type of sump ?
>>
>> This is bad for my BP - particularly when watching zero on gauge and
>> waiting for it to pick up !!
>>
>> Thank you
>> rg
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Good question Roger. <br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">Amazingly the crank journals had some oil residue burned onto them w=
hich easily polished off. This was a nitrided crank.<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll">The shells themselves definitely were also in "do not reuse" =
condition with burned oil on the surfaces but when checked with "Plast=
igage" were still within spec. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Sure blew me=
away!!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun=
, May 10, 2020 at 12:44 PM Roger Grace <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus=
.net">roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Michael - yes point taken; however your n=
arrative didn't say what those BE journals looked like when you eventua=
lly stripped that engine=C2=A0 !<br></div><div><br></div><div>My manual say=
s 7.25 litres capacity including the filter.<br></div><div>Added another qr=
t of oil, so I now have 7.6 liters in my engine.<br></div><div>Dip stick ri=
ght on max. graduation mark<br></div><div>Same story yesterday after a long=
run with oil at about 175F<br></div><div>Yes do have an oil cooler but don=
't think that the cooler oil drains when I drain the pan.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>My thinking is that the capacity and style of the oil pan o=
r gasket thickness does not matter as long as you fill up to the dip stick =
marks. The dip stick tube length is the reference that sets the correct int=
ernal oil level. Also the marks on the stick<br></div><div><br></div><div>I=
note that there are 2 different sticks referenced in the Moss catalog.<br>=
</div><div>Mine is the straight one. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So what =
gives ?<br></div><div>Are there perhaps different sticks and tubes out ther=
e ?<br></div><div>Mine looks stock but you never know ...<br></div><div><br=
></div><div>Or maybe other cars also do this but unnoticed and ignored ....=
<br></div><div>rg<br></div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----=
<br>From: Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Roger Grace <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.net</a>&g=
t;<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:47 -0600 (MDT)<br>Sub=
ject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">Hi Roger, before panicking too much about your short lived =
zero pressure issue read through this article that I wrote about 14 years a=
go regarding oil pressure issues; it may set your mind at ease.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:small"><a href=3D"https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-=
raising-the-suspension-and-fitting-a-sump-guard/" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2006/11/30/why-im-raising-the-suspension-and-fi=
tting-a-sump-guard/</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small=
">M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2=
:24 PM Roger Grace <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v>'67 BJ8 with recently rebuilt engine and cast alloy oil pan by PO.</d=
iv><div>7 Qts VR1shows marginally above top dip stick mark.<br></div><div>O=
il cooler</div><div>Normal running and idle OP is fine</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Would welcome comments from more experienced listers.</div><div>When o=
il is really hot - after a run after and after moderate hard braking (not p=
anic stop) OP falls to zero for about 2-3 secs before recovering to normal =
- around 48 psi. Not noticed when oil is cold.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>My thoughts:<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are there differences in the len=
gth of the pump input strainer assembly ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mayb=
e should be using more oil with the extra oil cooler volume ? Maybe this di=
p stick is incorrect for this type of sump ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>T=
his is bad for my BP - particularly when watching zero on gauge and waiting=
for it to pick up !!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you<br></div><div>=
rg<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></d=
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