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David Nock
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 2, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
>=20
> Kendall GT-1 20W-50 and other weights can be had on Amazon for half the pr=
ice of Valvoline VR-1 with the same protection.
>=20
> https://tinyurl.com/y7m6zlmx
>=20
> Mike MacLean
> On Friday, May 1, 2020, 9:11:28 PM PDT, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>=
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; st=
ill don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refu=
sed to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years a=
go my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got an e=
xplanation there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves sinc=
e, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be hap=
py.
>=20
> Bob
>=20
>=20
> On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
>> Hi,=20
>>=20
>> Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience s=
hared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was t=
he observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the u=
sual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have used that oil as i=
t carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. However, if Red Lin=
e stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. I also recalled that so=
me time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as=
it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule changes. I wonder=
ed it this happened to Red Line.
>> =20
>> So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response se=
nt one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to respond. W=
hile most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did come=
. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) contains good Z=
DDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225p=
pm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.
>>=20
>> As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottl=
e is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 g=
rams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much=
. I am just not inclined to experiment.
>> =20
>> The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, ev=
en for tropical heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the G=
reen Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights de=
pending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a bit differen=
t than those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty.=20=
>> =20
>> I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was a=
n air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There w=
ere also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99=
s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for m=
e to use a heavier oil.
>> =20
>> Many thanks to the folks who responded.=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>David Nock</d=
iv><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On May 2, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike=
@att.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpca4a38e3yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"fo=
nt-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><=
/div>
<div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Kendall GT-1 2=
0W-50 and other weights can be had on Amazon for half the price of Valvoline=
VR-1 with the same protection.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><b>https://tinyurl.co=
m/y7m6zlmx</b></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div>
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</div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_8559956323" class=3D"yahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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<div>
On Friday, May 1, 2020, 9:11:28 PM PDT, Bob Spidell <=
bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"yiv1269161651">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
bought from before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has
some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to
pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. =
;
I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv1269161651moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycof=
fbn7--- via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div>
<div id=3D"yiv1269161651">
<div class=3D"yiv1269161651userEdit" style=3D"font-family:arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.=
0pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">Hi, </span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">Thanks
all.<span style=3D""> </span>As is
usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
shared by the list. <span style=3D""> </span>What
triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
did not display the usual statement that it contains
ZDDP. <span style=3D""> </span>For
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span style=3D""> =
</span>However, if Red
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
<span style=3D""> </span>I also
recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
that it no longer cleared some California rule
changes. <span style=3D""> </span>I
wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p=
>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">So,
I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span style=3D=
""> </span>The Healey group
was much faster to respond. <span style=3D""> </span>=
While most
business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
response did come. <span style=3D""> </span>The
assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and
more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br style=3D"">
<br style=3D"">
</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">As to their brea=
k in additive, their Web site
indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
conventional oil.<span style=3D""> </span>It
also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span style=3D""> =
</span>I have to
wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
much.<span style=3D""> </span>I am
just not inclined to experiment.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p=
>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">The
3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 wei=
ght oil,
even for tropical heat.<span style=3D""> </span>Howe=
ver, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the
Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
promotes a lot of weights depending on the
manufacturer.<span style=3D""> </span>The
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
available when the book came out adds a bit more
uncertainty.<span style=3D""> </span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p=
>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">I
am confident using the 10W40.<span style=3D""> </spa=
n>I used 10W50 in
my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span style=3D"">&n=
bsp; </span>There were also
a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.<span style=3D""> </span>The
oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside f=
or
me to use a heavier oil.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p=
>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:.00=
01pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;">Many
thanks to the folks who responded.<span style=3D""> <=
/span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
4.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"> </span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"yiv1269161651MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
4.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">Bill</span></p=
>
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