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Mirek--
In response to your question as to whether anyone has experienced total
wheel failure, many years ago I had a 1960 BN7 that came with chrome wire
wheels, and though I don't remember whether the wheels had 48 or 60 spokes
I do know that on several occasions I experienced broken spokes. Things
never got to the point of total wheel failure because invariably the broken
spoke would poke a hole in the inner tube and when I had to replace the
tube I also replaced the spoke.
As opposed to today's stainless steel spokes back then I believe that
chromed wire wheels had plated spokes and the chroming process embrittled
the spokes, increasing their vulnerability to breaking. FWIW I have never
broken a spoke on the 20 year old 60 spoke chromed Daytons I have had on my
present car.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have wondered how many people drive with broken spokes and do not even
> realize it. I have only had experience with a few broken spokes, one on =
my
> Healey and one on my TC (both rear wheels), and both were broken right
> where the spoke enters the hub, and were not easily noticed. One really
> has to use the time-honoured method of tapping the spokes with a spanner =
or
> screwdriver to listen to the ring, or notice them during a tyre change. =
It
> is quite possible the many healeys, especially those owned/driven by less
> mechanically-minded souls, are driving around with a broken spoke or two.
> I'm no engineer, but I would not be surprised if this has little effect o=
n
> the overall safety of the wheel for normal driving. Does anyone know of =
a
> complete wheel failure from normal driving? I have seen only one. When
> still an apprentice, an E-Type was towed into the shop and one rear wheel
> had most of its spokes sheared off at the hub (a 72 spoke chrome Dunlop).
> No idea how it happened. Cheers, Mirek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Max
> Byers
> Sent: January-04-20 12:29 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
>
> "A few broken spokes in 106,000 miles is pretty good, I think. How many
> people besides you and me put that kind of mileage on their Healey now,
> Bob? And some of those broken spokes were in the days before Allen Hendr=
ix
> was truing and balancing my wheels.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> Spidell
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:50 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
>
> Hmmmmm. To me 'a few broken spokes' and 'more than adequate' is a
> contradiction in terms.
>
>
> On 1/4/2020 7:54 AM, Max Byers wrote:
> > Bruce, here is my input:
> >
> > I do not know anything about Dunlop/Moss wheels. I bought five 60-spok=
e
> 15x4.5 Dayton chrome wheels with stainless spokes from British Wire Wheel
> in 1991, and they are still on my BJ8 with 106,000 miles on them now. I'=
ve
> had a few broken spokes over the years, but fortunately I am relatively
> close to Allen Hendrix. He keeps them trued and balanced whenever I need
> replacement spokes or new tires.
> >
> > It is only my personal opinion and preference, but while 72 spoke wheel=
s
> are stronger, they are also have a "busier" appearance. My experience wi=
th
> the 60-spokers tells me that they are more than adequate.
> >
> > I have always used 165 x 15 tires, again personal preference. As to
> which brand, I use whichever tire is available to Hendrix Wire Wheel. At
> one point it was Kumhos, and I really liked those tires. They were not
> available at my last tire change, so I currently have Nexens. So far, wi=
th
> 5 years and 10,000 miles on them they are also proving to be a very good
> tire.
> >
> > Steve Byers
> > HBJ8L/36666
> > BJ8 Registry
> > AHCA Delegate at Large
> > Havelock, NC USA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Bruce Peters
> > Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:26 AM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I=E2=80=99m getting closer to having to buy wheels and tires for my =E2=
=80=9867 BJ8.
> When I say closer I mean a year or so but I like to plan ahead. My car wi=
ll
> not be concours correct or be entered in any car judging at shows. It=E2=
=80=99ll be
> a driver that won=E2=80=99t see any track time of any sort. That being sa=
id I=E2=80=99m
> wondering what everyone=E2=80=99s thoughts are on wheels and tires. I pla=
n to put
> chrome wire wheels on. I don=E2=80=99t want Minilite=E2=80=99s. So, here =
are my questions:
> >
> > 1. Dunlop style(e.g. Moss) versus Dayton(e.g. Hendrix)?
> > 2. Wheel size=E2=80=9415x4.5 60 spoke; 15x5 72 spoke; or 15x5.5 72 spok=
e?
> > 3. Tire Brand?
> > 4. Tire Size?
> >
> > I=E2=80=99m not a bargain basement shopper so I=E2=80=99m willing to pa=
y for the best
> combinations that make sense. I realize there=E2=80=99s a lot of personal
> preference so I hope I=E2=80=99m not gonna start a war with these questio=
ns!
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Mirek=
--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In response to your questi=
on as to whether anyone has experienced total wheel failure, many years ago=
I had a 1960 BN7 that came with chrome wire wheels, and though I don't=
remember whether the wheels had 48 or 60 spokes I do know that on several =
occasions I experienced broken spokes.=C2=A0 Things never got to the point =
of total wheel failure because invariably the broken spoke would poke a hol=
e in the inner tube and when I had to replace the tube I also replaced the =
spoke.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">As opposed to today=
9;s stainless steel spokes back then I believe that chromed wire wheels had=
plated spokes and the chroming process embrittled the spokes, increasing t=
heir vulnerability to breaking.=C2=A0 FWIW I have never broken a spoke on t=
he 20 year old 60 spoke chromed Daytons I have had on my present car.</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM Mirek Sharp <<a href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp=
@sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have wondered how =
many people drive with broken spokes and do not even realize it.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve only had experience with a few broken spokes, one on my Healey and one o=
n my TC (both rear wheels), and both were broken right where the spoke ente=
rs the hub, and were not easily noticed.=C2=A0 One really has to use the ti=
me-honoured method of tapping the spokes with a spanner or screwdriver to l=
isten to the ring, or notice them during a tyre change.=C2=A0 It is quite p=
ossible the many healeys, especially those owned/driven by less mechanicall=
y-minded souls, are driving around with a broken spoke or two.=C2=A0 I'=
m no engineer, but I would not be surprised if this has little effect on th=
e overall safety of the wheel for normal driving.=C2=A0 Does anyone know of=
a complete wheel=C2=A0 failure from normal driving?=C2=A0 I have seen only=
one.=C2=A0 When still an apprentice, an E-Type was towed into the shop and=
one rear wheel had most of its spokes sheared off at the hub (a 72 spoke c=
hrome Dunlop).=C2=A0 No idea how it happened.=C2=A0 Cheers,=C2=A0 Mirek<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Max Byers<b=
r>
Sent: January-04-20 12:29 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br>
<br>
"A few broken spokes in 106,000 miles is pretty good, I think.=C2=A0 H=
ow many people besides you and me put that kind of mileage on their Healey =
now, Bob?=C2=A0 And some of those broken spokes were in the days before All=
en Hendrix was truing and balancing my wheels.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell=
<br>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:50 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br>
<br>
Hmmmmm.=C2=A0 To me 'a few broken spokes' and 'more than adequa=
te' is a <br>
contradiction in terms.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/4/2020 7:54 AM, Max Byers wrote:<br>
> Bruce, here is my input:<br>
><br>
> I do not know anything about Dunlop/Moss wheels.=C2=A0 I bought five 6=
0-spoke 15x4.5 Dayton chrome wheels with stainless spokes from British Wire=
Wheel in 1991, and they are still on my BJ8 with 106,000 miles on them now=
.=C2=A0 I've had a few broken spokes over the years, but fortunately I =
am relatively close to Allen Hendrix.=C2=A0 He keeps them trued and balance=
d whenever I need replacement spokes or new tires.<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
> It is only my personal opinion and preference, but while 72 spoke whee=
ls are stronger, they are also have a "busier" appearance.=C2=A0 =
My experience with the 60-spokers tells me that they are more than adequate=
.<br>
><br>
> I have always used 165 x 15 tires, again personal preference.=C2=A0 As=
to which brand, I use whichever tire is available to Hendrix Wire Wheel.=
=C2=A0 At one point it was Kumhos, and I really liked those tires.=C2=A0 Th=
ey were not available at my last tire change, so I currently have Nexens.=
=C2=A0 So far, with 5 years and 10,000 miles on them they are also proving =
to be a very good tire.<br>
><br>
> Steve Byers<br>
> HBJ8L/36666<br>
> BJ8 Registry<br>
> AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
> Havelock, NC=C2=A0 USA<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bruce =
Peters<br>
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:26 AM<br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
s@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: [Healeys] Wheels/Tires<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
> I=E2=80=99m getting closer to having to buy wheels and tires for my =
=E2=80=9867 BJ8. When I say closer I mean a year or so but I like to plan a=
head. My car will not be concours correct or be entered in any car judging =
at shows. It=E2=80=99ll be a driver that won=E2=80=99t see any track time o=
f any sort. That being said I=E2=80=99m wondering what everyone=E2=80=99s t=
houghts are on wheels and tires. I plan to put chrome wire wheels on. I don=
=E2=80=99t want Minilite=E2=80=99s. So, here are my questions:<br>
><br>
> 1. Dunlop style(e.g. Moss) versus Dayton(e.g. Hendrix)?<br>
> 2. Wheel size=E2=80=9415x4.5 60 spoke; 15x5 72 spoke; or 15x5.5 72 spo=
ke?<br>
> 3. Tire Brand?<br>
> 4. Tire Size?<br>
><br>
> I=E2=80=99m not a bargain basement shopper so I=E2=80=99m willing to p=
ay for the best combinations that make sense. I realize there=E2=80=99s a l=
ot of personal preference so I hope I=E2=80=99m not gonna start a war with =
these questions!<br>
><br>
> Thanks everyone!<br>
> Bruce<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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