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Hello,
I have a mechanical background and find all these electrons confusing at
times. My electrical knowledge is limited to "as soon as you let the smoke
escape from any electrical system it doesn't work anymore". I am in the
process of restoring my car and have purchased LED headlights and interior
lights and was planning to stay with traditional filament bulbs for the turn
signal and brake lights. My car has the single brake, turn and running
light.
Are there any issues mixing LED and filament bulbs in this way?
Happy Holidays to all... Harold
rom: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael
MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:52 AM
To: Michael Oritt; Michael Salter
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ballast resistor wiring question
You can get a complete kit for the whole car including an LED flashing unit
from Litezupp.
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0LED%20Kit%22
Mike MacLean
On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 8:03:14 AM PST, Michael Salter
<michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
" What Kees says flies in the face of both Moss's (slightly inarticulate)
instructions as well as the consensus of the group" Quelle surprise !!
Actually, just to clear up the terminology, the resistors are required
between the green with white tracer wire (21) and ground on both right side
lamps and between the green with red tracer wire (18) and ground on both
left side lamps.
The important terminology is that these resistors parallel the turn/brake
light filaments to increase the current flow to the 3.2 amps required to
make the 42 watt thermal flasher unit operate as designed.
My middle name is "pedantic" :-)
M
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 10:30 AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks all. What Kees says flies in the face of both Moss's (slightly
inarticulate) instructions as well as the consensus of the group. I will
install ONE resistor in the flasher lead of each lamp, two--not
four--resistors total.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 10:22 AM Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Per the Moss video, you're creating a new ground path to prevent all
lights blinking when you turn on the left or right turn signal. So
connect the ballast resistors to the turn signal circuit.
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
On 12/24/19 9:22 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> I purchased two of the Moss 170-941 red LED bulbs to use as
> tail-lights/brake-lights to replace the standard 1157 dual filament
> bulbs on my 100 (I have the reflector pods electrified and wired for
> turn signals). In addition to the bulbs I also purchased, at Moss's
> suggestion, two 170-965 Load Resistors.
>
> The instructions for installation of the resistors simply talk about the
> resistor's being installed between the power and ground leads to each
> fixture but it does not specify which power lead. My question is: do I
> connect the ground lead to the tail light power lead or the turn signal
> power lead or does it matter? I cannot envision connecting it to both
> as that would defeat their separate function.
>
> TIA....Michael Oritt
>
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confusing at times. My electrical knowledge is limited to "as soon as =
you let=20
the smoke escape from any electrical system it doesn't work anymore". I =
am in=20
the process of restoring my car and have purchased LED headlights and =
interior=20
lights and was planning to stay with traditional filament bulbs for the =
turn=20
signal and brake lights. My car has the single brake, turn and running=20
light.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2 face=3DArial>Are there any issues mixing LED and filament bulbs =
in this=20
way?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Harold</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20
MacLean<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Michael=20
Oritt; Michael Salter<BR><B>Cc:</B> Austin Healey<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
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including an LED flashing unit from Litezupp.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 8:03:14 AM PST, Michael Salter=20
<michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote: </DIV>
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style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,0,255)"><I>" What Kees says flies in the face =
of both=20
Moss's (slightly inarticulate) instructions as well as the =
consensus of the=20
group"</I></SPAN> Quelle surprise !!</DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dyiv1193384878gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, =
sans-serif">Actually, just=20
to clear up the terminology, the resistors are required between the =
green with=20
white tracer wire (21) and ground on both right side lamps and between =
the green=20
with red tracer wire (18) and ground on both left side lamps.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1193384878gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">The =
important=20
terminology is that these resistors <U><B>parallel</B></U> the =
turn/brake light=20
filaments to increase the current flow to the 3.2 amps required to make =
the 42=20
watt thermal flasher unit operate as designed. <BR =
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<DIV class=3Dyiv1193384878gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">My =
middle name=20
is "pedantic" :-)</DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif"><BR=20
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all. What Kees says flies in the face of both Moss's =
(slightly=20
inarticulate) instructions as well as the consensus of the =
group. =20
I will install ONE resistor in the flasher lead of each =
lamp,=20
two--not four--resistors total.</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; =
MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">Per=20
the Moss video, you're creating a new ground path to prevent all <BR =
clear=3Dnone>lights blinking when you turn on the left or right turn =
signal. So <BR clear=3Dnone>connect the ballast resistors to =
the turn=20
signal circuit.<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Cheers,<BR =
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registrar<BR=20
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wrote:<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>> I purchased two of the Moss 170-941 red LED bulbs =
to use as=20
<BR clear=3Dnone>> tail-lights/brake-lights to replace the =
standard 1157=20
dual filament <BR clear=3Dnone>> bulbs on my 100 (I have the =
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