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You know here is a difference between an old car and a classic car.
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crossply tyres and no electric/electronic gadgets.
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An old car allows all to drive it, a classic car only allows those to drive=
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Op 14-8-2019 om 07:11 schreef Earl Kagna:
You guys are just too critical. My BJ8 (with Toyota 5-speed) is still
a real Healey. I can tell by the oil leaks. I think that the
transmission drips a bit too just to keep the rest of the car happy.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys
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Agreed - or 5 spd Toyota transmissions ... !!
rg
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From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:29:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys
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Real Healeys don't have alternators
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 1:45 PM Roger Grace, <roggrace@telus.net
In any event, unless you are doing significantly more idling than
driving this drawdown duning idling is not really significant. This
is what the battery is for. If you had an ammeter you would see the
amps pick up after idling to bring the batt back up to full volts.
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Of couse you need a good batt, and alternator.
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rg
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> On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tom McCay <Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com
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> Hi Price, alternators do not kick in until they are rotating at
about 1200 alternator RPM. The pulley ratio is approximately 3:1 when
comparing the bottom crank pulley to the alternator pulley. At idle
of 800 RPM the alternator would be rotating at 2400 RPM so you should
have a good output at idle. The smaller the alternator pulley the
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> Subject: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys
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> I have installed an alternator in my BJ8 to support ac with mixed
success. Since our cars use a v-belt system I had to replace the
pulley that came with the alternator(serpentine) with a v-belt
pulley. I have checked the power the alternator and at idle, it is
below the amperage needed to run the equipment I have installed.
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> When I look at the circumference of the v-belt pulley and the
serpentine pulley, the v-belt is definitely smaller. Should I use a
v-belt pulley of similar size? Increasing the circumference of the
pulley will make the alternator spin faster and maybe solve my issue
of slow engine speed/low amp output, I think.
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> If my thinking is correct, how big of a pulley should I use? I
presume that if the pulley is too large, it may make the alternator
produce too many amps and damage it. Should I match the size of the
serpentine pulley or buy a pulley based on a calculation? (FWIW, I
have no knowledge/experience to do this).
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> The pulleys on the crank and water pump are standard Healey. There
is ac installed and the pulley on the compressor is larger than the
old generator. I have a two belt system so the alternator is belted
to the compressor which if what I said above about larger pulleys
spin their equipment faster, how should this be accounted for?
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">You know here is a =
difference between an old car and a classic car.</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
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gearbox, crossply tyres and no electric/electronic gadgets.</span></span></=
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tion:none">An old car allows all to drive it, a classic car only allows tho=
se to drive it propperly who are sensible enough to understand the classic =
car´s sole. So its easy to recognise the competent classic car enthus=
iast.<br /></span></span></p>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Op 14-8-2019 om 07:11 schreef Earl Kagna:</d=
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<blockquote cite=3D"mid:6C3208E1CF084C298AE3220551516F20@KagsLaptop">
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<div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: &qu=
ot; calibri&quot;; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: nor=
mal; display: inline;">You guys are just too critical. My BJ8 (with T=
oyota 5-speed) is still a real Healey. I can tell by the oil leaks. I=
think that the transmission drips a bit too just to keep the rest of the c=
ar happy.</div>
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<div>Earl</div>
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ot; calibri&quot;; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: nor=
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<div style=3D"font-color: black;"><strong>From:</strong> <a title=3D"roggra=
ce@telus.net" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</a></div>
<div><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, August 13, 2019 5:29 PM</div>
<div><strong>To:</strong> <a title=3D"michaelsalter@gmail.com" href=3D"mail=
to:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a></div>
<div><strong>Cc:</strong> <a title=3D"Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com" href=3D"mail=
to:Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com">Tom McCay</a> ; <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.=
net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healey List</a> ; <a title=3D"p=
brauen@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com";>pbrauen@gmail.com</a></=
div>
<div><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys</div>
</div>
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ot; calibri&quot;; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: nor=
mal; display: inline;">
<div>Agreed - or 5 spd Toyota transmissions ... !!</div>
<div>rg</div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----<br />From: Michael Salter <a class=3D"moz=
-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";><michaelsalt=
er@gmail.com></a><br />To: Roger Grace <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E=
" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";><roggrace@telus.net></a><br />Cc=
: Price Lindsay <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@g=
mail.com"><050.rpl@gmail.com></a>, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviat=
ed" href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com";>pbrauen@gmail.com</a>, Tom McCay <a c=
lass=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com";><=
Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com></a>, Healey List <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc23=
96E" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net><=
/a><br />Sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:29:01 -0600 (MDT)<br />Subject: Re: [Hea=
leys] Alternator Pulleys</div>
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<div>Real Healeys don't have alternators \uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 1:45 PM Roger G=
race, <<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>roggrace@telus.net</a>> =
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">In any event, unless you are doing sig=
nificantly more idling than driving this drawdown duning idling is not real=
ly significant. This is what the battery is for. If you had an ammeter you =
would see the amps pick up after idling to bring the batt back up to full v=
olts.<br />
<div> </div>
Of couse you need a good batt, and alternator.<br />
<div> </div>
rg<br />
<div> </div>
<br />----- Original Message -----<br />
<div> </div>
From: R. Lindsay <<a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer=
">050.rpl@gmail.com</a>><br />
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To: Tom McCay <<a href=3D"mailto:Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com"; rel=3D"norefer=
rer">Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com</a>><br />
<div> </div>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">pbrauen@gmail.c=
om</a>, Healey List <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"no=
referrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br />
<div> </div>
Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:59:08 -0600 (MDT)<br />
<div> </div>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys<br />
<div> </div>
<br />Thank you!<br />
<div> </div>
<br />Price Lindsay<br />
<div> </div>
<br />Cell: 630-841-6300<br />
<div> </div>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">050.rpl@gmai=
l.com</a><br />
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<br />Sent from my iPhone<br />
<div> </div>
<br />> On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tom McCay <<a href=3D"mailto:Tom=
.McCay@ccw-tools.com" rel=3D"noreferrer">Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com</a>> wr=
ote:<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Hi Price, alternators do not kick in until they are rotating at about =
1200 alternator RPM. The pulley ratio is approximately 3:1 when comparing t=
he bottom crank pulley to the alternator pulley. At idle of 800 RPM the alt=
ernator would be rotating at 2400 RPM so you should have a good output at i=
dle. The smaller the alternator pulley the faster it will spin.<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Kindest regards<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Tom McCay<br />
<div> </div>
> Director<br />
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> <a href=3D"http://www.ccw-tools.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">www=
.ccw-tools.com</a><br />
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> Tel: 01522 888178<br />
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> ________________________________________<br />
<div> </div>
> From: Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay=
[<a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">050.rpl@gmail.com=
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> Sent: 12 August 2019 23:19<br />
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> To: <a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">warthodso=
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uen@gmail.com</a>; Healey List<br />
<div> </div>
> Subject: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> I have installed an alternator in my BJ8 to support ac with mixed succ=
ess. Since our cars use a v-belt system I had to replace the pulley that ca=
me with the alternator(serpentine) with a v-belt pulley. I have check=
ed the power the alternator and at idle, it is below the amperage needed to=
run the equipment I have installed.<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> When I look at the circumference of the v-belt pulley and the serpenti=
ne pulley, the v-belt is definitely smaller. Should I use a v-belt pulley o=
f similar size? Increasing the circumference of the pulley will make =
the alternator spin faster and maybe solve my issue of slow engine speed/lo=
w amp output, I think.<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> If my thinking is correct, how big of a pulley should I use? I p=
resume that if the pulley is too large, it may make the alternator produce =
too many amps and damage it. Should I match the size of the serpentin=
e pulley or buy a pulley based on a calculation? (FWIW, I have no kno=
wledge/experience to do this).<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> The pulleys on the crank and water pump are standard Healey. There is =
ac installed and the pulley on the compressor is larger than the old genera=
tor. I have a two belt system so the alternator is belted to the compressor=
which if what I said above about larger pulleys spin their equipment faste=
r, how should this be accounted for?<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> I may be over thinking this but I would like to run the ac at a reason=
able idle. Has anyone approached this and came up with a resolution?<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Thank you so much for any light that can be shed on this.<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Price Lindsay<br />
<div> </div>
> <br />
<div> </div>
> Cell: 630-841-6300<br />
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