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Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:22:43 +0200
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Old British car manufacturer which was incorporated in Aston Martin. 
There was a spectacular Lagonda in the 70´s, the ultimate wedge with 
fully electronic dashboard which turned out to be a nightmare.


Kees Oudesluijs

Op 9-4-2019 om 15:12 schreef Robert Begani:
>
> More on electricity in the automobile.  The same friend has been 
> working to get his classic Lagonda automobile in top operating 
> condition and noticed that the starting was weak so he cleaned the 
> cables contacts etc.  Still not satisfactory, so he had the batteries 
> checked with a load test.  They were in good condition.  Then he began 
> to look at the ground strap.  It was not what he expected, small 
> diameter and screwed to the firewall.  So he ran a large gauge copper 
> wire directly to the engine and bolted the new ground wire directly to 
> the frame. Voila, the engine turns over rapidly.  Now he will consider 
> reinstalling his Aluminum Radiator. We AH owners are fortunate to have 
> a heavy ground strap from the engine to the frame, so our stray 
> electric problems could be largely eliminated. However, it is good to 
> check to see if it has a clean and secure connection to both sides 
> thereby insuring constant flow of electricity. A weak flow can create 
> a problem that you will attribute to a weak battery etc.
>
> Next question to start a thread, what is a Lagonda British Car for the 
> next trivia question?
>
> I never heard of it until Hermann bought one and brought it to the 
> U.S.  Probably, it is the only one in North America!
>
> Bob Begani
>
> BJ8
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 8, 2019 7:02 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush
>
> Interesting. In all the research and comments I read before buying the 
> radiator I never heard about rapid distruction. Only about how great 
> they were. Was planning to keep my oem unit. Now convinced I should.
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com 
>
>     Much and all as that sounds like a good theory I am having
>     difficulty with the logic.
>
>     A starter won't work if an engine isn't adequately grounded and a
>     ground of sufficient size to operate a starter will definitely be
>     big enough to eliminate any EMF difference between the engine and
>     the chassis.
>
>     I've had an aluminum radiator corrode to worthlessness after only
>     3 years, with corrosion inhibitors in the coolant, and have yet to
>     hear a realistic explanation for why it happened.
>
>     M
>
>
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    <p>Old British car manufacturer which was incorporated in Aston
      Martin. There was a spectacular Lagonda in the 70´s, the ultimate
      wedge with fully electronic dashboard which turned out to be a
      nightmare.</p>
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src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/1986_Aston_Martin_Lagonda_%289014216671%29.jpg/1200px-1986_Aston_Martin_Lagonda_%289014216671%29.jpg";
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    <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 9-4-2019 om 15:12 schreef Robert
      Begani:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">More
            on electricity in the automobile.  The same friend has been
            working to get his classic Lagonda automobile in top
            operating condition and noticed that the starting was weak
            so he cleaned the cables contacts etc.  Still not
            satisfactory, so he had the batteries checked with a load
            test.  They were in good condition.  Then he began to look
            at the ground strap.  It was not what he expected, small
            diameter and screwed to the firewall.  So he ran a large
            gauge copper wire directly to the engine and bolted the new
            ground wire directly to the frame. Voila, the engine turns
            over rapidly.  Now he will consider reinstalling his
            Aluminum Radiator. We AH owners are fortunate to have a
            heavy ground strap from the engine to the frame, so our
            stray electric problems could be largely eliminated. 
            However, it is good to check to see if it has a clean and
            secure connection to both sides thereby insuring constant
            flow of electricity. A weak flow can create a problem that
            you will attribute to a weak battery etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Next
            question to start a thread, what is a Lagonda British Car
            for the next trivia question?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            never heard of it until Hermann bought one and brought it to
            the U.S.  Probably, it is the only one in North 
America!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Bob
            Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> i erbs &lt;<a
            href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          <br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 8, 2019 7:02 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a
            href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
          <b>Cc:</b> Robert Begani &lt;<a
            href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
          Ahealey help &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Interesting. In all the research and
            comments I read before buying the radiator I never heard
            about rapid distruction. Only about how great they were. 
            Was planning to keep my oem unit. Now convinced I 
should.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks
              all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
                Portland, OR<br>
                typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael
              Salter &lt;<a href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";
                moz-do-not-send="true">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Much and all as that sounds like a
                good theory I am having difficulty with the 
logic. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">A starter won't work if an engine
                  isn't adequately grounded and a ground of sufficient
                  size to operate a starter will definitely be big
                  enough to eliminate any EMF difference between the
                  engine and the chassis. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I've had an aluminum radiator
                  corrode to worthlessness after only 3 years, with
                  corrosion inhibitors in the coolant, and have yet to
                  hear a realistic explanation for why it 
happened. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:11.55pt">M 
<o:p></o:p></p>
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