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Ah ... I was thinking of the horizontal brace (not the 'X').

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Again from the Concours Guidelines. 2018 Edition Pg 91.
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> / Double front X-braces immediately behind the grille are painted body 
> color, except some white cars had this brace painted black 44.
> â?¢ Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels using 
> pan head Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also 
> painted body color. Very early cars have been found to have only the 
> horizontal panel and not the vertical one. In these cases where the 
> vertical panel is missing, the two holes located on the front-to-back 
> center portion of the panel are missing.  On OEW 100s where the engine 
> compartment was painted black, these inner apron panels were also black./
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> /44 If you find your car fits the exception document it and restore, 
> as you believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body color.
> /
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> /
> Michael Salter
> Technical Editor (Big Healeys)
> The Austin-Healey Concours Registry
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> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:43 PM i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com 
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>     Can someone post a photo of the lip?
>     My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black
>     before I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it
>     be black or body color?
>     Ira Erbs
>     Portland,OR
>         _______  _______
>        (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>     (_________________________)
>               BT7 engine and disk brakes
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>     1967 MGB MG
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>     A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>     Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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>     On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com
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>         From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:
>
>         Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in
>         front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on black
>         cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the grille opening."
>         Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip of
>         the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body
>         color, generally on all but black cars, probably to make the
>         lower shroud lip less noticeable."
>
>         Steve Byers
>         HBJ8L/36666
>         BJ8 Registry
>         AHCA Delegate at Large
>         Havelock, NC
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>         From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>         Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM
>         Subject: [Healeys] Black faces
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>         I read the following question recently on facebook, but no
>         clear  answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to the
>         cross panel in front of the radiator?
>
>         Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted
>         (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same
>         was with the cross panel front face in front of the radiator?
>         Are there other body panels which are not just bolt on painted
>         in black?
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    <p>Ah ... I was thinking of the horizontal brace (not the 'X').<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, Michael Salter
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                style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i> Double front X-braces
                  immediately behind the grille are painted body color,
                  except some white cars had this brace painted black
                  44. <br>
                  â?¢ Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical
                  division panels using pan head Phillips screws and
                  large flat washers, which were also painted body
                  color. Very early cars have been found to have only
                  the horizontal panel and not the vertical one. In
                  these cases where the vertical panel is missing, the
                  two holes located on the front-to-back center portion
                  of the panel are missing.  On OEW 100s where the
                  engine compartment was painted black, these inner
                  apron panels were also black.</i></span></div>
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                style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>44 If you find your car
                  fits the exception document it and restore, as you
                  believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body
                  color. <br>
                </i></span></div>
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                style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><font color="#000000">The
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        <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:43 PM i erbs &lt;<a
            href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?
            <div>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to
              paint it black before I reinstall my grille... What about
              the air dam, should it be black or body color?<br
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                                            <div dir="ltr">Ira Erbs
                                              <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                              <div><span
                                                  style="font-family:&quot;Times
                                                  New Roman&quot;,serif"> 
                                                      _______          
                                                                      
 
                                                   _______</span><br
                                                  style="font-family:&quot;Times
                                                  New Roman&quot;,serif">
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:&quot;Times
                                                  New Roman&quot;,serif"> 
                                                     (______ \____1959
                                                  BN4____/ _______)</span><br
style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">
                                                <span
                                                  style="font-family:&quot;Times
                                                  New Roman&quot;,serif"> 
                                                        
                                                  
(_________________________)</span></div>
                                              <div>          BT7 engine
                                                and disk brakes</div>
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                                              <div>1967 MGB  <img
                                                  
src="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg";
                                                  alt="MG"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
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                                              <div><span
                                                  
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an
                                                  animal with a thousand
                                                  adjustments. Mario
                                                  Andretti</span><br>
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                                              <div>Please excuse random
                                                auto corrects and
                                                misspelled words</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys
              &lt;<a href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">From the
              Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br>
              <br>
              Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in
              front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on
              black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the
              grille opening."<br>
              Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip
              of the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the
              body color, generally on all but black cars, probably to
              make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."<br>
              <br>
              Steve Byers<br>
              HBJ8L/36666<br>
              BJ8 Registry<br>
              AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
              Havelock, NC  <br>
              <br>
              <br>
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                target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a><br>
              Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM<br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
              Subject: [Healeys] Black faces<br>
              <br>
              I read the following question recently on facebook, but no
              clear  answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to
              the cross panel in front of the radiator?<br>
              <br>
              Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was
              painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and
              the same was with the cross panel front face in front of
              the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not
              just bolt on painted in black?<br>
              <br>
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