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There still seems to be some confusion between the type of construction =
of the badge and the material that is in the colored part.
Cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers' terms that refer to how =
the badge is constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous =
enamel" or paint.
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>From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
Definition of cloisonn=C3=A9 (adjective)
: of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the =
enamel is applied and fired in raised cells (as of soldered wires) on a =
usually metal background =E2=80=94 compare champlev=C3=A9 =
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev=C3=A9> =20
Definition of champlev=C3=A9 (adjective)=20
: of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the =
enamel is applied and fired in cells depressed (as by incising) into a =
metal background =E2=80=94 compare cloisonn=C3=A9 =
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn=C3=A9> =20
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Definition of vitreous enamel (noun)=20
: a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other metals=20
=E2=80=94 called also porcelain enamel=20
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Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge construction is =
champlev=C3=A9, while the red material is vitreous enamel or paint. =
Some have claimed that their badge never had either material but were =
plain chrome.
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Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC =20
=20
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
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While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an =
amateur--that isn't correct. What's in our badges--until late BJ8s =
anyway, which were painted--is Champlev=C3=A9:
https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-b=
etween-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/
This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I =
hear they are horribly backlogged:
http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/
Bob
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On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is cloisonn=C3=A9.
Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.
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There are places where you can get it redone.
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.
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>There still seems to be some confusion between =
the <u>type of construction</u> of the badge and the <u>material</u> =
that is in the colored part.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers' =
terms that refer to how the badge is constructed, while the red material =
is either "vitreous enamel" or paint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>From the Merriam-Webster =
dictionary:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Definition of =
<i>cloisonn=C3=A9 (adjective)</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>of, =
relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel =
is applied and fired in <u>raised</u> cells (as of soldered wires) on a =
usually metal background =E2=80=94 compare <a =
href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev=C3=A9";>champl=
ev=C3=A9</a> <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Definition of <i>champlev=C3=A9 =
(adjective) </i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>of, =
relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel =
is applied and fired in cells <u>depressed</u> (as by incising) into a =
metal background =E2=80=94 compare <a =
href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn=C3=A9";>cloiso=
nn=C3=A9</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Definition of <i>vitreous enamel =
(noun) </i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>: =
</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other =
metals <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>=E2=80=94 called also porcelain enamel =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge =
<u>construction</u> is champlev=C3=A9, while the red <u>material</u> is =
vitreous enamel or paint.=C2=A0 Some have claimed that their badge never =
had either material but were plain chrome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Paint type and color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>While I normally wouldn't =
contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an amateur--that isn't =
correct. What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were =
painted--is <strong>Champlev=C3=A9:</strong><o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-diff=
erence-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquet=
reasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloi=
sonne-enamel/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>This is usually cited as the goto =
place for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly =
backlogged:<o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/";>http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:=
p></o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it =
is <span =
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444;=
background:white'>cloisonn=C3=A9.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and =
paint just doesn't look the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are places where you can get it =
redone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote =
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style=3D'color:#002060'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><=
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