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Subject: Re: [Healeys] still overheating
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:18:08 +0200
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Rodding a radiator is not a good idea. It usually does not do the trick. 
If the radiator needs attention have it rebuild with a new high capacity 
core and flush the engine before fitting it.

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 26-9-2018 om 02:53 schreef i erbs:
> Good point. Radiator was rodded out a few tear ago.been a long time 
> since I flushed the engine. Been thinking about an aluminum radiator 
> but will flush the engine first. I really dont think it's a head 
> gasket, but I ordered a gas checking chemical just to rule it out.
> Thanks
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 5:49 PM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl 
>
>     As the problem arrose rather suddenly, I would not realy think of
>     a head gasket, also as there is no oil in water or v.v.  Also the
>     car is running smoothly which does not indicate poor adjustment of
>     carbs and/or ignition (my first thoughts) or blown head gasket.
>     Waterpump or thermostat (sorry) would be the biggest suspects.
>
>     You say that the engine was rebuilt 40 years ago. Was the coolant
>     replaced and the engine/radiator flushed periodically, say every
>     2-3 years? Could it be that the engine has silted up and suddenly
>     some sediment particles come loose blocking some passage or radiator?
>
>     Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>     Op 25-9-2018 om 18:36 schreef i erbs:
>>     no oil in water, no water in the oil
>>     water just circulates in radiator when thermostat opens, no bubbles
>>     Will get a test kit to check radiator water. Car runs really
>>     smoothly. I'm actually quite happy with it.
>>     Ira Erbs
>>     Portland,OR
>>     _______      _______
>>          (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>     (_________________________)
>>               BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>
>>
>>     1967 MGB MG
>>
>>     A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>>     Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:10 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>>
>>         Hate to say it, but an overheating issue that happens
>>         suddenly like that could be a blown head gasket.  There are
>>         test kits for exhaust gasses in the coolant, and you could
>>         start with a compression test.
>>
>>         These guys are pretty good:
>>
>>         https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test
>>
>>         Bob
>>
>>
>>         On 9/24/2018 8:19 PM, i erbs wrote:
>>>         My car was running great...
>>>         In june it was running hot on  our trip to Victoria BC. It
>>>         had been running around 185. On trip it started running up
>>>         to 212 and then way hot after parking.
>>>         The car has continued to behave this way all summer. I
>>>         replaced the newish radiator cap topped up and went for a
>>>         drive tonight. 64 degrees ambient temp.
>>>         Drove for 30 miles and stopped to check. Temp went past 220
>>>         and water began to flow out the overflow tube and some
>>>         squirted out of the hose fitting and water pooled around the
>>>         bottom of the filler neck.
>>>         So why would start doing this after running cool and fine
>>>         for a year or so?  I'm going to see if I can borrow a pump
>>>         to check the radiator neck for poor cap fitting. I don't
>>>         understand what would cause it to happen?
>>>         Sorry, I have to mention that the thermostat opened at about
>>>         168 degrees and water flowed through the system
>>>         Ira Erbs
>>>         Portland,OR
>>>           _______  _______
>>>         (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>>         (_________________________)
>>>         BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>>
>>>
>>>         1967 MGB MG
>>>
>>>         A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario
>>>         Andretti
>>>         Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>>
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    <p>Rodding a radiator is not a good idea. It usually does not do the
      trick. If the radiator needs attention have it rebuild with a new
      high capacity core and flush the engine before fitting it.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 26-9-2018 om 02:53 schreef i erbs:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Good point. Radiator was rodded out a few tear
        ago.been a long time since I flushed the engine. Been thinking
        about an aluminum radiator but will flush the engine first. I
        really dont think it's a head gasket, but I ordered a gas
        checking chemical just to rule it out.
        <div dir="auto">Thanks<br>
          <br>
          <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Ira Erbs<br>
            Portland, OR<br>
            typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 5:49 PM Kees Oudesluijs
          &lt;<a href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";
            moz-do-not-send="true">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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            <p>As the problem arrose rather suddenly, I would not realy
              think of a head gasket, also as there is no oil in water
              or v.v.  Also the car is running smoothly which does not
              indicate poor adjustment of carbs and/or ignition (my
              first thoughts) or blown head gasket. Waterpump or
              thermostat (sorry) would be the biggest suspects.</p>
            <p>You say that the engine was rebuilt 40 years ago. Was the
              coolant replaced and the engine/radiator flushed
              periodically, say every 2-3 years? Could it be that the
              engine has silted up and suddenly some sediment particles
              come loose blocking some passage or radiator? <br>
            </p>
            <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br>
            </p>
            <p><br>
            </p>
            <div class="m_3333674089609116961moz-cite-prefix">Op
              25-9-2018 om 18:36 schreef i erbs:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">no oil in water, no water in the oil
                <div>water just circulates in radiator when thermostat
                  opens, no bubbles</div>
                <div>Will get a test kit to check radiator water. Car
                  runs really smoothly. I'm actually quite happy with
                  it.<br clear="all">
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                                                <div dir="ltr">Ira Erbs
                                                  <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                                  <div><span>     
                                                      _______          
                                                                       
                                                           _______</span><br>
                                                    <span>     (______
                                                      \____1959 BN4____/
                                                      _______)</span><br>
                                                    <span>        
(_________________________)</span></div>
                                                  <div>          BT7
                                                    engine and disk
                                                    brakes</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>1967 MGB  <img
                                                      
src="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg";
                                                      alt="MG"
                                                      
moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
                                                  <div><br>
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                                                  <div><span>A racing
                                                      car is an animal
                                                      with a thousand
                                                      adjustments. Mario
                                                      Andretti</span><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Please excuse
                                                    random auto corrects
                                                    and misspelled words</div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
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                <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:10 AM Bob
                  Spidell &lt;<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <p>Hate to say it, but an overheating issue that
                      happens suddenly like that could be a blown head
                      gasket.  There are test kits for exhaust gasses in
                      the coolant, and you could start with a
                      compression test.</p>
                    <p>These guys are pretty good:</p>
                    <p><a
                        
class="m_3333674089609116961m_7207678264728878605moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test";
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test</a><br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Bob<br>
                    </p>
                    <br>
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                      9/24/2018 8:19 PM, i erbs wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">My car was running great...
                        <div>In june it was running hot on  our trip to
                          Victoria BC. It had been running around 185.
                          On trip it started running up to 212 and then
                          way hot after parking.</div>
                        <div>The car has continued to behave this way
                          all summer. I replaced the newish radiator cap
                          topped up and went for a drive tonight. 64
                          degrees ambient temp.</div>
                        <div>Drove for 30 miles and stopped to check.
                          Temp went past 220 and water began to flow out
                          the overflow tube and some squirted out of the
                          hose fitting and water pooled around the
                          bottom of the filler neck.</div>
                        <div>So why would start doing this after running
                          cool and fine for a year or so?  I'm going to
                          see if I can borrow a pump to check the
                          radiator neck for poor cap fitting. I don't
                          understand what would cause it to happen?</div>
                        <div>Sorry, I have to mention that the
                          thermostat opened at about 168 degrees and
                          water flowed through the system<br clear="all">
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                                                        <div dir="ltr">Ira
                                                          Erbs
                                                          <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                                          <div><span>   
                                                            _______    
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                           _______</span><br>
                                                          <span>    
                                                          (______
                                                          \____1959
                                                          BN4____/
                                                          _______)</span><br>
                                                          <span>        
(_________________________)</span></div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                          BT7 engine and
                                                          disk brakes</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>1967 MGB
                                                           <img
                                                          
src="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg";
                                                          alt="MG"
                                                          
moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <div><span>A
                                                          racing car is
                                                          an animal with
                                                          a thousand
                                                          adjustments.
                                                          Mario 
Andretti</span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Please
                                                          excuse random
                                                          auto corrects
                                                          and misspelled
                                                          words</div>
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