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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: "Ross Maylor" <rvmaylor@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:03:42 -0600
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While somewhat related to this topic of thermostats I have an early BN6 =
with the temperature gauge in the top of the rad. It is a bit =
discomforting to see no temperature reading in cooler weather until the =
thermostat opens up. The block appears to have the same hole where 3000s =
have their temperature gauge.  If I acquired a  3000 temp gauge would =
the sensor end fit in there?

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Thanks

Ross

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David =
Nock BCS
Sent: September 13, 2018 9:07 AM
To: Don Day <fsufan1952@yahoo.com>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

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Yes we have a wax capsule type thermostat that incorporates the sleeve, =
They only come in one temperature 165 degree.

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David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26 PM


Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

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So do you sell a sleeved thermostat for my 67 BJ-8 =20

          Don=20

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:49 AM, David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net =

Remember the job of the thermostat is not to COOL the engine. It is =
there to get the engine up to operating temperature as soon as possible. =
The radiator, fan, air ducts are there to maintain the engine =
temperature.

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The sleeved thermostat is there to block a bypass in the cylinder head =
that is there to allow coolant to circulate when the thermostat is =
closed. If you use a non sleeved thermostat you will have part of the =
coolant NOT going thru the radiator thus causing the engine temp to run =
high.

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Next how many lights and badges do you have on the front of your car. =
They will deflect some of the air going into the radiator.

=20

=20

=20

David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>=20

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:44 PM


Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

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Steve,

Yes agree with your take on the 160 F thermostats. The only possible =
benefit is that if you start with a lower coolant temp, when you hit =
traffic, it will take longer before the dreaded over temp zone is =
approached.

As an aside, I have installed an oil temp gauge; very useful and a =
reminder just how long the engine (not coolant) takes to get up to temp. =
Trying to get in the habit of not going over 2000 RPM till OT is about =
120F =E2=80=93 often another 15-20 mins after the thermostat opens.=20

rg

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From: BJ8Healeys=20

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:44 PM

To: 'healeys'=20

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

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Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to =
"cool down" a Healey is useless.  A thermostat responds only to the =
temperature of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase =
coolant flow, and once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the =
loop and can't open further to cool more.  I am on the NC coast where =
winters are mild.  I once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one =
that someone gave me.  My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually =
had to block part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal.  =
Up there in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for =
you.

I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number =
1572320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs.  I =
installed it along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same =
time, so I can't really say how much improvement the thermostat alone =
did; but since the modification my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in =
the hot summers of the NC coast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when =
it might make it to 190 or a bit above.  In winter, it runs at 160 - =
170.  I can see the sleeve operate as the car warms up because the gauge =
will cycle between 160 and 190 until coolant temperature stabilizes.  =
That can take up to 50 miles.

A friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F =
sleeved thermostats.  I got one of those as a spare.  Don't know if he =
has any left, or can get more.  As far as I know, the only sleeved =
thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't =
waste my money on them.

I just Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:

https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h

Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it =
offers free shipping!).  Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK =
lister to buy one for you and ship it to you.  =C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04=20

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred =
Wescoe
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 8:38 PM
To: healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostats

=20

Listers,

=20

I have researched what I can of the archives and other sources and am =
still puzzled.  I cannot find any real answers and direction on the =
question of which thermostat I should use in my 66 BJ8.  Some answers =
indicate a sleeved thermostat and others say no sleeve.  Some say a =
short sleeve and others say only the long sleeve works.  Some answers =
indicate using a 160 degree thermostat while others propose 180 degrees =
and even 190 degrees.  Some even say the Moss sleeved thermostat does =
not work.

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I am in North Carolina and drive the car most of the year.  Right now =
the car has a non sleeved 190 degree thermostat.  The car starts and =
needs to warm up, at idle, to almost full temp before it runs with no =
problems.  Otherwise it spits, coughs and has no power.  The car runs at =
about 190 degres except when I drive the mountains and of course stop =
and go traffic.

=20

What is the consensus of thoughts as we approach colder weather?  And =
what are the sources and manufacturer for a good thermostat?

=20

Thanks for the help,

=20

Fred

66BJ8

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>While somewhat related to this topic of =
thermostats I have an early BN6 with the temperature gauge in the top of =
the rad. It is a bit discomforting to see no temperature reading in =
cooler weather until the thermostat opens up. The block appears to have =
the same hole where 3000s have their temperature gauge. =C2=A0If I =
acquired a =C2=A03000 temp gauge would the sensor end fit in =
there?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ross<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Nock =
BCS<br><b>Sent:</b> September 13, 2018 9:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Don Day =
&lt;fsufan1952@yahoo.com&gt;; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>Yes we have a wax =
capsule type thermostat that incorporates the sleeve, They only come in =
one temperature 165 degree.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>David Nock<br>British =
Car =
Specialists<br>209-948-8767<br>www.britishcarspecialists.com<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:fsufan1952@yahoo.com"; =
title=3D"fsufan1952@yahoo.com">Don Day</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
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nt:</span></b><span =
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; =
title=3D"healeydoc@sbcglobal.net">David Nock BCS</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
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bject:</span></b><span =
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Re: [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>So do you sell a =
sleeved thermostat for my 67 BJ-8&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Don <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent from my =
iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><br>On Sep 12, =
2018, at 11:49 AM, David Nock BCS &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>Remember the job of =
the thermostat is not to COOL the engine. It is there to get the engine =
up to operating temperature as soon as possible. The radiator, fan, air =
ducts are there to maintain the engine =
temperature.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>The sleeved thermostat =
is there to block a bypass in the cylinder head that is there to allow =
coolant to circulate when the thermostat is closed. If you use a non =
sleeved thermostat you will have part of the coolant NOT going thru the =
radiator thus causing the engine temp to run =
high.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>Next how many lights =
and badges do you have on the front of your car. They will deflect some =
of the air going into the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century",serif;color:black'>David Nock<br>British =
Car Specialists<br>209-948-8767<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.c=
om</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
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om:</span></b><span =
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<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; title=3D"roggrace@telus.net">Roger =
Grace</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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nt:</span></b><span =
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Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; =
title=3D"sbyers@ec.rr.com">BJ8Healeys</a> ; <a =
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"Healeys@autox.team.net">'healeys'</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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bject:</span></b><span =
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Re: [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>Yes agree with your take on the 160 F thermostats. The =
only possible benefit is that if you start with a lower coolant temp, =
when you hit traffic, it will take longer before the dreaded over temp =
zone is approached.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>As an aside, I have installed an oil temp gauge; very =
useful and a reminder just how long the engine (not coolant) takes to =
get up to temp. Trying to get in the habit of not going over 2000 RPM =
till OT is about 120F =E2=80=93 often another 15-20 mins after the =
thermostat opens. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>rg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
BJ8Healeys <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Se=
nt:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Monday, September 10, 2018 12:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
'healeys' <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Su=
bject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Re: [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat =
used in an effort to &quot;cool down&quot; a Healey is useless.&nbsp; A =
thermostat responds only to the temperature of the coolant flowing =
through it by opening up to increase coolant flow, and once it is open =
all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop and can't open further to =
cool more.&nbsp; I am on the NC coast where winters are mild.&nbsp; I =
once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one that someone gave =
me.&nbsp; My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually had to block =
part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal.&nbsp; Up there =
in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for =
you.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved =
thermostat (AC part number 1572320) that I was able to score from lister =
Kees Oudesluijs.&nbsp; I installed it along with an upgraded core in the =
radiator at the same time, so I can't really say how much improvement =
the thermostat alone did; but since the modification my car runs =
consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the NC coast, except =
when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a bit =
above.&nbsp; In winter, it runs at 160 - 170.&nbsp; I can see the sleeve =
operate as the car warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and =
190 until coolant temperature stabilizes.&nbsp; That can take up to 50 =
miles.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>A friend placed an order later with Kees for =
several of the 190 F sleeved thermostats.&nbsp; I got one of those as a =
spare.&nbsp; Don't know if he has any left, or can get more.&nbsp; As =
far as I know, the only sleeved thermostats available from the usual =
suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste my money on them.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>I =
just Googled the AC part number and came up with this =
source:</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><a =
href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h";>https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</a></s=
pan></b><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but =
on the bright side, it offers free shipping!).&nbsp; Maybe you could =
work out a deal with a UK lister to buy one for you and ship it to =
you.&nbsp; =C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04 </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred Wescoe<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
September 09, 2018 8:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] Thermostats</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Listers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>I have researched what I =
can of the archives and other sources and am still puzzled.&nbsp; I =
cannot find any real answers and direction on the question of which =
thermostat I should use in my 66 BJ8.&nbsp; Some answers indicate a =
sleeved thermostat and others say no sleeve.&nbsp; Some say a short =
sleeve and others say only the long sleeve works.&nbsp; Some answers =
indicate using a 160 degree thermostat while others propose 180 degrees =
and even 190 degrees.&nbsp; Some even say the Moss sleeved thermostat =
does not work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>I am in North Carolina and =
drive the car most of the year.&nbsp; Right now the car has a non =
sleeved 190 degree thermostat.&nbsp; The car starts and needs to warm =
up, at idle, to almost full temp before it runs with no problems.&nbsp; =
Otherwise it spits, coughs and has no power.&nbsp; The car runs at about =
190 degres except when I drive the mountains and of course stop and go =
traffic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>What is the consensus of =
thoughts as we approach colder weather?&nbsp; And what are the sources =
and manufacturer for a good =
thermostat?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Thanks for the =
help,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Fred<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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