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Subject: [Healeys] 1956 Austin-Healey 100M
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 02:11:08 +0000
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Michael,
I totally agree with your assessment here, it really does not matter what is 
incorrect with this car, what matters is that someone will hopefully purchase 
it and get it back on the road. This will afford the seller to keep selling 
great cars and help the vintage car community. On June 19th the owner of Hyman 
Ltd., Mark Hyman made a presentation in Washington against the proposed 25% 
tariff that the Government wants to put in place when importing cars or car 
parts. He presented, along with other interested parties, to the Department of 
Commerce as to why this was a bad idea and that the vintage car business is a 
$180 billion industry at the moment. I believe that we need more Mark Hyman in 
our community, even if the cars he sells are not quite to the Concours level we 
expect.
By the way, I had looked at a BT7 restored, actually over restored by your 
friend at an RM auction in Arizona several years ago and I pointed out to the 
person who was with me that the trunk seal was missing and now it would become 
a difficult task to fit one and make it all fit. A lady was nearby, turned out 
to be the sellers wife, simply told me that it did not rain in California, I 
just shook my head and walked away.

Jean
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael MacLean 
<rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 1:44:16 PM
To: Bob Spidell; Randall Hicks
Cc: Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1956 Austin-Healey 100M

I think you are all missing the point here.  This car is not going not be 
bought by any Healey expert.  It is not even aimed at us.  The person that buys 
this car will be looking at it as an investment.  He probably will be buying 
his first Healey.  Unless he has a Healey expert inspect the car first, he is 
going to be surprised at the first Healey event he attends when they pick the 
car apart.  A recently deceased Healey restorer friend of mine that sold four 
100M cars at auction houses like Barret-Jackson and RM auctions constantly 
would regale me with stories of Healey "experts" picking his restoration apart 
before the auction with no intention or resources to buy the car.  My friend 
used to complain about these Healey "experts" mouthing off about what is wrong 
with the car such as it being over restored.  My friend used to chrome some 
small parts that would take the most wear such as the bracket that the hood 
prop fit into when you open the bonnet because the paint would be scratched 
almost immediately the first time it was used.  He used to get grief over 
little things like that.   The fact is most of the "real" buyers of his cars 
knew nothing about Healeys.  Most of them had been drinking all day before the 
auction started and the auction house facilitated this on a regular basis.  
Despite his "over restored' method of producing these cars he would regularly 
pull in up to $250K on his 100M restorations.  He also was the only restorer at 
the auction that would guarantee his cars mechanically for one year after 
purchase and traveled to Florida one time to "fix" a car that a woman bought 
just to impress guests that were coming from England.  She had had trouble 
starting the car.  When he got there he had to explain how the manual choke 
worked and the car started first time.  These are the people that buy these 
cars.  Lots of money and no interest in knowing the finer points of our cars. 
It's just a nice shiny object that they want. Unfortunately this is typical of 
the  majority of auction customers.  Hence the over inflated prices of our cars 
that most of us could never get or or try with a good conscience to.  OK, off 
my soap box for now. You guys can go back to the finer points to argue.
Mike MacLean


On Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:38 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> 
wrote:


Odd choice of color change, IMO.  Black/red is a rarer combination for an M 
(though it wouldn't be my favorite).  If I was going to go with a non-original 
scheme, I'd go with Florida  Green over white, which I think is absolutely 
stunning (and shows in some of the selling prices I've seen).
Any chance this is a 'counterfeit;' i.e. one of the cars where the BMIHT cert 
was 'shopped' by an unscrupulous restorer (there was an infamous case where 
someone submitted a series of VINs, looking for one with the 'shipped with 
louvred bonnet' comment).  As I mentioned, one level of '100M Registry' 
certification only requires the BMIHT cert.
Bob

On 8/2/2018 6:23 AM, Randall Hicks wrote:
Trying it again. Message may have been too big.


As I understand it, as early as autumn 1953 "Le Mans modifications" and 
?Special Tuning equipment" parts were available from the DHMC. These could be 
bought outright, through dealers or DHMC installed. According to Piggott?s 
Austin-Healey 100 in Detail, the P280 Le Mans Kit (as a complete package) was 
released in October 1955. If others have documentation showing different, I 
would be very interested is seeing it.

Secondly, OEW duotone 100M were only done in OEW/Black with Black trim. There 
was no OEW/Lobella with blue trim as a standard factory option for the 100M. 
However, remember that 100?s could be ordered in special color or primer.

This particular car, BN2L/232949, was originally a Black/Reno Red with Black 
interior trim and hood. See attached BMIHT Certificate.

I looked at the car in 2008 or 2009 (?) when it was offered for sale by Jerry 
Bennsinger (OH). It was all OEW with blue trim at that point and I passed for 
many reasons.

Randy

Randy Hicks
Chairman, Austin-Healey Concours Registry Committee
AHCA 100 Registrar
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