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Re: [Healeys] Streamliner and Engines

To: Healey <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner and Engines
From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 14:00:21 +0000
Cc: Derek job <djjob@noos.fr>
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Where, Ken?

However if you look here:

<https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>

there are two batteries in the LHS footwell so there certainly might have been
something else inside.

Something else I noticed in the picture above is that there are two of the plugs
fitted above the radiator are missing. In:

<https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>

all the plugs are position above the radiator and there are two more resting
where the back of the bonnet sits. so I guess that they were taken at different
times.

In one the bonnet is up, but the driver is out and the crew are distracted. In
the other there is a plug change going on (look at the hand and rod in the
second photo). My guess is that they were taken during practice rather than the
race, because of the lack of race-level activity. However I see that the date is
given as 23/03/57, but then that doesn't prove a great deal as quite a bit of
the metadata is inaccurate and it may have been given that date simply because
that was race day.

Another interesting thing is that if you look at the **race** photos on Derek
Job's site,

<http://www.healeysix.net/Streamliners.htm>

the paint colours appear totally different, although I put that down to the
stability of old transparencies, to apparent over-exposure and the extensive
post-processing (scanning, conversion to web-accessible formats) that they have
gone through. But note that the B&W pictures of 25 crashing are reasonably
consistent with the colours shown.

Peter

On 26/11/2015 19:06, goldengt@cal.net wrote:
> What's the water pipe going back to the firewall for? Is there an expansion 
> tank
> there? Is there another connection to the rear of the head we can't see?
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Peter Dzwig" <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
> *To: *"Derek Job" <derek.c.job@gmail.com>, "healeys" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:27:22 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Streamliner and Engines
> 
> Looking in detail at the pic again I noticed that the engine is "XSP 234-4" so
> it is a Experimental Special Production engine built to the "234 type" 
> whatever
> that really meant (it is apparently still unclear). But note the engine in the
> '56 streamliner was 234-6; the engine in the endurance car was 234-3;
> 
> According to Del Border in AHSTC Flash in February 2010 on p16 the full list 
> of
> 234 numbers is unknown as are the cars for which they were built. The final
> number signifies the number of the engine in the build sequence of that
> configuration, so this is the fourth engine in the XSP 234 type. But it isn't
> either the '56 streamliner's engine, nor the endurance car's engine. It might,
> however, seem reasonable to surmise that this is a spare engine that was taken
> to the US for the trials and later transplanted into this body for the '57 
> Sebring.
> 
> Note interestingly that Border's engine 815-3 which he suggests was run at
> Sebring in '57 or '58 has very different carburation from XSP 234-4 and is
> painted green rather than the metallic paint here:
> 
> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
> 
> which is more like the later cars as I recall.
> 
> Anyone any thoughts/comments on any of the above?
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 25/11/2015 19:51, Derek Job wrote:
>> Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say note the 
>> triple
>> Webers.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com
>>
>>     I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
>>     Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions wrong, 
>> but..
>>
>>     Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
>>
>>     <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
>>
>>     Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be the
> Record Car)
>>
>>     <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
>>
>>     Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
>>
>>     <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
>>
>>     The photos are from the  Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
>>
>>     Peter
>>     --
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>>     ===========================================================
>>     Dr Peter Dzwig
>>
>>
> 
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