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True enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or =
more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel =
because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are =
overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted =
spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the =
long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new spokes.
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:34 AM
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing
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The problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the =
nipples seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually =
impossible to free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not =
available for these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself =
is often a little distorted and straightening that is very difficult and =
cannot be achieved by simply adjusting the spokes.=20
I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on =
the rim then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no =
measurable change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst =
wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty accurately.=20
Regarding the "scalloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and =
managed to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the =
original profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did =
when before the treatment.
Michael S
BN1 #174
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net =
Ingenious, and very not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true =
the wheels? =20
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You probably want to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate =
for the width-wise scalloping of the tread.
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From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com =
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM
Subject: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing
=20
Not recommended for the home mechanic but very effective...
http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/
=20
Michael S
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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
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>True enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or =
more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel =
because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are =
overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted =
spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the =
long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new =
spokes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:34 =
AM<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Post =
on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The =
problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the nipples =
seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to =
free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not available for =
these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself is often a =
little distorted and straightening that is very difficult and cannot be =
achieved by simply adjusting the spokes. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I had heard of people deflating =
the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on the rim then checking again so I =
gave that a try... There was no measurable change although I tried it in =
all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are =
made pretty accurately. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Regarding the =
"scalloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed =
to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the original =
profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did =
when before the treatment.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael =
S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Wed, =
Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ingenious, and very =
not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true the wheels? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>You probably want =
to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise =
scalloping of the tread.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D3 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>"Michael =
Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: =
</b>"healeys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] =
New Post on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p=
></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Not recommended for =
the home mechanic but very effective...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/</a><o:p></o:p></span=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>Michael S<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>If you can't =
fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.</span></i><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>If you can't fix it with a =
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