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To: I Erbs <eyera3@gmail.com>, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem
From: Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:44:04 -0400
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Nope.=F0=9F=98=8A=20

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From: "I Erbs" <eyera3@gmail.com>
Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E07/=E2=80=8E2015 4:38 p.m.
To: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ahealey help" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem

Loose ground? Or a vacuum problem?
Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jul 16, 2015 9:32 PM, "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:

I have done the following;

STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM
This car has an original cap, original wires, original NA8 spark plugs, ori=
ginal black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not to change any of =
these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that that item is the =
source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!
After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... the engine started to r=
un very badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a warm but not h=
ot day after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough road under const=
ruction eventually stopping completely as I tried to climb a hill. Sounded =
to be running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiring through exhaust=E2=80=A6 =
no throttle response.
Cranked but would not start..Appeared to have spark at the coil wire..
Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd miles stopped with the=
 same symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no difference.
Could not hear fuel  pump ticking but had fuel pressure at the front carb=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6good spark at coil wire=E2=80=A6spark at plugs looked thi=
n =E2=80=A6Changed the condenser and the rotor and it started reluctantly a=
nd ran well for about 15 miles then stopped again=E2=80=A6.same symptoms=E2=
=80=A6.changed rotor=E2=80=A6ran for 2 miles same symptoms=E2=80=A6
Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=80=9D washers under the carb float chamber struts w=
hich I think could be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=
=80=A6
Next day, today, I headed out for another extended drive and the car ran pe=
rfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the problem after 36 mi=
les and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=80=A6.it actual=
ly died as I approached our driveway and I coasted in with the ignition tur=
ned off.  Nothing would make it start.
Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. Took off the float chambe=
r lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine cranked but woul=
d just not start..
After checking everything I could think of I believe that I have found the =
problem but I don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test before loa=
ding the car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6
What do you think I found?


Michael..


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font-size: 11pt;">Nope.=F0=9F=98=8A </div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span =
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d;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:=
 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:eyera3@gmail.com";>I Erbs</a></span><br><span styl=
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Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11p=
t;">=E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E07/=E2=80=8E2015 4:38 p.m.</span><br><span style=
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o: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"=
><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</a></span><br><s=
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eight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem</span><br><br=
></div><p dir=3D"ltr">Loose ground? Or a vacuum problem?</p>=0A=
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>=0A=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 16, 2015 9:32 PM, "Michael Salter" &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204,=
 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif=
; font-size: small;">I have done the following;<br>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This car has an original cap, original wires, origin=
al NA8=0A=
spark plugs, original black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not t=
o=0A=
change any of these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that tha=
t=0A=
item is the source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... =
the engine=0A=
started to run very badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a wa=
rm=0A=
but not hot day after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough road un=
der construction=0A=
eventually stopping completely as I tried to climb a hill. Sounded to be=0A=
running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiring through exhaust=E2=80=A6 no thr=
ottle=0A=
response.</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cranked but would not start..Appeared to have spark =
at the=0A=
coil wire..</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd=
 miles stopped=0A=
with the same symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no difference.=
</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Could not hear fuel<span>&nbsp;=0A=
</span>pump ticking but had fuel pressure at the front carb=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6good spark at coil=0A=
wire=E2=80=A6spark at plugs looked thin =E2=80=A6Changed the condenser and =
the rotor and it started=0A=
reluctantly and ran well for about 15 miles then stopped again=E2=80=A6.sam=
e=0A=
symptoms=E2=80=A6.changed rotor=E2=80=A6ran for 2 miles same symptoms=E2=80=
=A6</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=80=9D washers under the carb=
 float chamber struts=0A=
which I think could be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=
=80=A6</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Next day, today, I headed out for another extended d=
rive and=0A=
the car ran perfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the probl=
em=0A=
after 36 miles and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=80=
=A6.it=0A=
actually died as I approached our driveway and I coasted in with the igniti=
on=0A=
turned off.<span>&nbsp; </span>Nothing would make it start.</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. To=
ok off=0A=
the float chamber lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine=
=0A=
cranked but would just not start..</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After checking everything I could think of I believe=
 that I have=0A=
found the problem but I don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test =
before=0A=
loading the car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6</p>=0A=
=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What do you think I found?</p>=0A=
=0A=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,=
sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael..<br clear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br>=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font size=3D"2"><span style=
=3D"color: black;">If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electri=
cal problem.</span></font></i><br><br><div></div><div></div><div></div></di=
v></div></div></div>=0A=
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