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I agree, the original Lucas parts were of excellent quality. You can still
buy Lucas branded products but they are made by a company (or companies)
that have licensed the name.
Derek
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> G=E2=80=99day
>
>
>
> For once I must agree with Kees!
>
>
>
> The original Lucas parts were built to a very high standard and rarely
> gave any problems. Everyone laughs at the saying =E2=80=9CPrice of Darkne=
ss=E2=80=9D but
> when was the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or
> switches?
>
>
>
> When I restored the BN3 I wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it i=
s
> unique. So after I removed it from the car it was stripped of all outside
> covering, taped at strategic locations and then soaked for three days in =
a
> mix of water and laundry powder. While soaking it was given the occasiona=
l
> stir. All this removed the years of built up crud. Then I went through
> every wire, terminal and connector with a cloth and mineral turpentine.
> Every bullet connector was tested and if found wanting, removed and
> resoldered. Only when I was happy with its cleanliness did I have it
> completely rebound in the correct cotton. I did exactly the same with all
> the electrical components. Clean, clean and more clean.
>
>
>
> That was in the 1980s and have not had a single electrical problem since.
> The secret to Lucas equipment (and any other brand) is cleanliness.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> Oudesluys
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 June 2015 5:39 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons
>
>
>
> Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any trouble.
> In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are
> now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is still working, quite
> impressive. That some fail now after all those years because of wear cann=
ot
> be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably it is because of
> lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of oil, cleaning a=
nd
> lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until it stops working and
> breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and if not used regularly they
> will built up resistance, than heat and burn out. Just a small bit of
> contact spray now and than will keep them in good nick. The big old Lucas
> relays are of excellent quality, but the same applies here. Used regularl=
y
> and there is rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts
> now and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.
> Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were skimping
> on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of those. And the lac=
k
> of fuses but that was a universal problem.
> These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old Joseph's
> joint.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>
> J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:
>
> Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 a=
nd drove
> it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and drov=
e
> it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been hammered
> around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased
> another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour race=
s
> all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on=
?
> Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and
> there are many about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price
> they have learnt from experience to select the better product.
>
> On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs i=
n
> the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check the
> valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the
> engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel
>
> When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not
> so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later t=
he
> car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out the
> good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the
> before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!
>
>
>
> I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together
> with a piece of electrial tape. Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree, the original Lucas parts were of excellent qualit=
y. You can still buy Lucas branded products but they are made by a company =
(or companies) that have licensed the name.<div><br></div><div style>Derek<=
/div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu=
, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"; target=3D"_blank">p_cquinn@tpg.com=
.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D=
"white" lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">G=E2=80=99day<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">For once I must agree with K=
ees!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">The original Lucas =
parts were built to a very high standard and rarely gave any problems. Ever=
yone laughs at the saying =E2=80=9CPrice of Darkness=E2=80=9D but when was =
the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or switches?<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">When I restored the BN3 I=
wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it is unique. So after I remove=
d it from the car it was stripped of all outside covering, taped at strateg=
ic locations and then soaked for three days in a mix of water and laundry p=
owder. While soaking it was given the occasional stir. All this removed the=
years of built up crud. Then I went through every wire, terminal and conne=
ctor with a cloth and mineral turpentine. Every bullet connector was tested=
and if found wanting, removed and resoldered. Only when I was happy with i=
ts cleanliness did I have it completely rebound in the correct cotton. I di=
d exactly the same with all the electrical components. Clean, clean and mor=
e clean.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">That was in the=
1980s and have not had a single electrical problem since. The secret to Lu=
cas equipment (and any other brand) is cleanliness.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;color:windowtext">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
windowtext">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">Blue Mountains, Australia<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&=
quot;,"sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Oudesluys<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4=
June 2015 5:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healey=
s] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><di=
v><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely=
gave any trouble. In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40=
.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is stil=
l working, quite impressive. That some fail now after all those years becau=
se of wear cannot be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably i=
t is because of lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of o=
il, cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until it=
stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and if not use=
d regularly they will built up resistance, than heat and burn out. Just a s=
mall bit of contact spray now and than will keep them in good nick. The big=
old Lucas relays are of excellent quality, but the same applies here. Used=
regularly and there is rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the=
contacts now and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.<br>Where the c=
ar manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were skimping on that and =
the connectors and corrosion protection of those. And the lack of fuses but=
that was a universal problem.<br>These days new "Lucas" parts ha=
ve nothing to do with good old Joseph's joint.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><b=
r><br><br><br>J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:<u></u><u></u></p></div=
><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first B=
N.4 in 1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased a=
nother BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that=
had been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my les=
sonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring=
12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. Wha=
t is going on?=C2=A0 Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / ret=
ailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see on the list )=
and pay the price they have learnt from experience to select the better pr=
oduct.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On another occasi=
on I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs in the head. I was l=
azy and turned the engine on the starter to check the valve clearance and b=
less my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cylind=
ers pumping air and unburnt fuel<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by t=
he not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks la=
ter the car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned ou=
t the good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs=
the before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button=
held together with a piece of electrial tape.=C2=A0 Good old reliable Jose=
ph Lucas.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Joe<u></u><u></u></p></div><p c=
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