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Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:38:59 +0200
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Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any 
trouble. In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 
40.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is 
still working, quite impressive. That some fail now after all those 
years because of wear cannot be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, 
most probably it is because of lacking use and/or maintainance that they 
fail. A drop of oil, cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't 
bother, until it stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will 
corrode and if not used regularly they will built up resistance, than 
heat and burn out. Just a small bit of contact spray now and than will 
keep them in good nick. The big old Lucas relays are of excellent 
quality, but the same applies here. Used regularly and there is rarely 
any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts now and than using 
a piece of thin hard cardboard.
Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were 
skimping on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of those. 
And the lack of fuses but that was a universal problem.
These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old Joseph's 
joint.
Kees Oudesluijs




J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:
> Down ?Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 and 
> drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 
> and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had 
> been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my 
> lessonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two 
> Sebring 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never 
> stopped. What is going on?  Maybe it is time to identify the reliable 
> repair / retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I 
> see on the list ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience 
> to select the better product.
> On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark 
> plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to 
> check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU 
> system started the engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel
> When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the 
> not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks 
> later the car had been performing well but then would not start. It 
> turned out the good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn 
> mower spark plugs the before mentioned service station attendant had 
> fitted!
>
> I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together 
> with a piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.
>
> Joe
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Most Lucas parts were of excellent
      quality. They rarely gave any trouble. In those days cars did only
      last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on
      and most of the original stuff is still working, quite impressive.
      That some fail now after all those years because of wear cannot be
      attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably it is because
      of lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of oil,
      cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until
      it stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and
      if not used regularly they will built up resistance, than heat and
      burn out. Just a small bit of contact spray now and than will keep
      them in good nick. The big old Lucas relays are of excellent
      quality, but the same applies here. Used regularly and there is
      rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts now
      and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.<br>
      Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were
      skimping on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of
      those. And the lack of fuses but that was a universal problem.<br>
      These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old
      Joseph's joint.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:<br>
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      <div>Down ?Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in
        1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit,
        purchased another BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy
        and purchased a car that had been hammered around Sebring for 12
        hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased another Healey
        that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all
        fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is
        going on?  Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair /
        retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see
        on the list ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience
        to select the better product.</div>
      <div>On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4
        spark plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the
        starter to check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old
        Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cylinders
        pumping air and unburnt fuel</div>
      <div>When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced
        by the not so well informed ex-owner working at a service
        station. Two weeks later the car had been performing well but
        then would not start. It turned out the good old Lucas system
        had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before
        mentioned service station attendant had fitted!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held
        together with a piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable
        Joseph Lucas.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>Joe</div>
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