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Re: [Healeys] Aluminum vs Copper/Brass Radiator?

To: "Wilko2" <e-wilkins@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum vs Copper/Brass Radiator?
From: "David Nock BCS" <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:38:08 -0700
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I was skeptical when going to the aluminum radiator as well I had been told 
all the reasons not to use a alloy radiator.
But there is nothing better then actually using it a road testing it for 
your self. So I did.
All the findings over a 2000 mile trip were that the alloy radiator was far 
superior to the copper / brass radiator that I had
been using, and no it was not an old radiator. I had had it re cored several 
years ago and then to make sure it wasnbt a problem
I had it cleaned and inspected about 2 years ago.

Conclusion was that the installation of the alloy radiator cured a hot 
running engine. Proven by using it.



David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com


-----Original Message----- 
From: Wilko2
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 4:04 PM
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum vs Copper/Brass Radiator?

Actually for the materials, the ability to dissipate heat is easily measured
and aluminum in a similar configuration does not perform as well as brass. 
The
benefit of aluminum is weight savings and strength (which allows for better
designs).

One company selling aluminum radiators has published numbers for the side
tanks where a lot of the heat is reportedly dissipated.

here's a graphic that they use that highlights there extruded tank design 
with
more surface area out-performing all tanks.
www.flex-a-lite-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/radiator-heat-rejection.j
pg?w=285

They go on to say:
"Heat rejection is the term for measuring the ability of a material to
transfer heat to the air. This is what a radiators job boils down to: Take
engine heat that has been transferred to the engine coolant and transfer it 
to
the atmosphere. Heat rejection is measured by the amount of British Thermal
Units (BTU) per hour the system can dissipate. Higher BTU/hour means more 
heat
transfer and better cooling.
Brass radiators came in nearly all vehicles until the 80s. A typical
original-equipment brass radiator rejects heat at a rate of about 1,500
BTU/hour. Thats pretty good, and this is why brass was chosen as the 
material
for radiators. In the 80s, car manufactures wanted to reduce costs and 
lower
vehicle weight. This led to changing the radiator design to use composite
(plastic) tanks with an aluminum core. The plastic tanks transfer about 
1,000
BTU/hour; considerably less than the traditional brass construction. Next we
come to aluminum radiators. It might surprise you to learn that the typical,
smooth aftermarket aluminum radiator tanks dissipate heat at a rate of about
only 700 BTU/hour! Thats less than half the BTU of brass sidetanks!"


Anyway, the common wisdom is that core design and not material is what 
matters
most.
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