I did mention the id tag as being wrong in one of the first mails about this
car ....
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On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:08 AM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
> First off, this sellers reputation is well known to me, and others in the
> industry and we will leave it at that.
>
> Secondly, in my opinion, there is a subtle intent to deceive here where the
> owner purposely tries to make this car sound like it's an original 750 mile
> car with very little done to it... this is absolutely not the case. In
fact
> this fellow got very defensive with me today after I called him to inquire
> about the car for a client. This car has been totally restored, and either
> through ignorance or laziness what made this a potentially valuable car is
> now lost forever. I have no problem with someone restoring the car but too
> many things were done incorrectly that just didn't need to be done.
>
> BTW, the current owner and seller did not restore this car, that being said
> he's asking a premium ($115K) for this car based on certain assumptions
> where it's not warranted. *And how come no one wants to mention the fact
> that the VIN tag is a REPRODUCTION!* This is a huge red flag to me and
> others on the Concours Committee. There is something not right here, and
in
> fact another Concours Committee member also looked at this car for a client
> and he told him to run away from it.
>
> As far as David's comments go, who the hell said anything about not being
> able to tastefully modify a car or that it had to be restored exactly as it
> came from the factory. I for one as the Concours Chairman am getting sick
> and tired having to repeat myself on this issue. There are a lot of
> modifications that can be made to an Austin Healey that will improve the
> driving and performance without detracting from the visible originality.
> Both of my cars are being restored with this in mind, but the Concours
> detractors want to spin what we do as being too rigid and inflexible, when
> this is just not the case.
>
> We are in my opinion the most liberal in our judging standards, catering to
> the cars being driven. If your Healey is a trailer queen that's your fault,
> not ours. This being said we also have one of the toughest judging
> standards of any Concours. Like Jaguar Concours (JCNA) we judge to 1,000
> points, but unlike Jaguar, who take a max of 20 minutes, our typical
judging
> can run 90 minutes or more. I'm involved with Jaguar Concours and the Jag
> folks I know have a lot of respect for what we do.
>
> Maybe most of you on the list don't see what I see but here are a few
things
> that bug me about this car...
>
> -The fender spear on backwards, give me a break and this guy wants top
> dollar for this car?
> -Hardura in the boot versus Armacord. What... too cheap, lazy or ignorant
> to get the correct material?
> -Typical incorrect Moss interior with the white piping on the seats.
> Obviously replaced the carpet.
> -Wrong steering wheel? My original wheel, on a 76K original mile car that
> was not pampered but at least indoors is still perfect after 56 years..
read
> NO CRACKS. And this car had 500 miles on it and spent all of its life in
> someone house?
> -As far as the fuel line goes , no chrome was not original nor an option.
> The original copper pipe was a flat zinc or possibly flat nickel plated.
> - Grill teeth are bright chrome not the satin or "Butler" chrome as
> original. This finish is extremely durable and I can see no reason what so
> ever to have replated the grill other than personal preference.
> - Finally the reproduction VIN tag, need I say more?
>
> I'll end it here with the personal preference line. His car his choice.
> But now don't try to sell for what it is not. What it is, is nice bronze
or
> silver level car, that in my opinion (and Gary Anderson's too) worth about
> $75K at auction. Bottom line... Bob Spidell summed up what I, and others
> I've spoken to think.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> *The problem I have--and I suspect others do too--is that this car is not
> presented as having been (lavishly over-) restored. All I saw was mention
> of a few mechanical fixes, and the red coves being added. Why was an
> obviously expensive restoration not mentioned? Because the car could
> possibly fetch more money as a pristine original, presumably sold to
someone
> not truly versed in Healey provenance? IMO, this borders on
> misrepresentation--this seller is not naive.
> *
> Remember, I've spoken with the seller and something is fishy about this
car,
> and in fact he was so defensive he started yelling at me. I advised my
> client to walk away from it, and he agrees.*
>
> *Cheers,
>
> Curt
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