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FYI to FOT. After this whole thing started I called Safecraft, who supplie=
d my system. I ordered a new 5 pound bottle with a head made for two rele=
ases cables and the second cable. They are in stock and I should have it i=
n under two weeks. They are located in the SF Bay area. =20
Ken
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Curt Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 3:50 PM
To: Ken Knight; Ken Knight via Fot; vfracing@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
FOT,=20
=C2=A0=20
This is a big deal.=C2=A0 I will check this out with SVRA and report back A=
SAP.=C2=A0 I can tell you that in California, its extremely difficult, if n=
ot impossible, to purchase new systems.=C2=A0 The tanks are back ordered.=
=C2=A0 In fact, I'm lending out the bottle from my Miata so other racers ca=
n us it in local SCCA San Francisco races.=C2=A0 So this=C2=A0 requirement =
doesn't match up with reality for now.=C2=A0 I have a new bottle in my TR7,=
but couldn't get last year for the TR8.=C2=A0 Both cars have a single acti=
vation points for the driver only.=20
=C2=A0=20
Curt Johnston=20
On 02/20/2024 1:11 PM PST Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0=20
So with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule?=C2=A0 Had we=
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project.=C2=A0 S=
ome of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertificatio=
n could very well be a major problem in these times.=C2=A0 So what is the a=
lternative, buy a new system?=C2=A0 Some of us have already committed to ra=
ce with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until S=
onoma.=C2=A0 Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not t=
o mention a potential large expense.
=C2=A0
We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under t=
he assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be a=
llowed to run as is.=C2=A0 Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last m=
inute does not sit well.=C2=A0 No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unre=
asonable.
=C2=A0
Ken
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows
=C2=A0
From: vfracing--- via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
=C2=A0
Advanced warning:
The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. =C2=A0Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. =C2=A0Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. =C2=A0Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)
=C2=A0
For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at=C2=A0https:=
//svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf.
=C2=A0
Regards,
=C2=A0
Phil Gott
=C2=A0
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http://www.fot-racing.com=20
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>FYI t=
o FOT.=C2=A0 After this whole thing started I called Safecraft, who supplie=
d my system.=C2=A0 I ordered a new =C2=A05 pound bottle with a head made fo=
r two releases cables and the second cable.=C2=A0 They are in stock and I s=
hould have it in under two weeks.=C2=A0 They are located in the SF Bay area=
.=C2=A0 </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
Ken</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent =
from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> =
for Windows</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-=
element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:=
3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><=
b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:curt.johnston@comcast.net";>Curt Johnston</a><=
br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 3:50 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:kknight@klaenv.com";>Ken Knight</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net">Ken Knight via Fot</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>vfracing=
@aol.com</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirement=
s for Kastner Cup</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
,sans-serif;color:#333333'>FOT, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-s=
erif;color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;co=
lor:#333333'>This is a big deal. I will check this out with SVRA and =
report back ASAP. I can tell you that in California, its extremely di=
fficult, if not impossible, to purchase new systems. The tanks are ba=
ck ordered. In fact, I'm lending out the bottle from my Miata so othe=
r racers can us it in local SCCA San Francisco races. So this r=
equirement doesn't match up with reality for now. I have a new bottle=
in my TR7, but couldn't get last year for the TR8. Both cars have a =
single activation points for the driver only. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",s=
ans-serif;color:#333333'>Curt Johnston <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>On 02/20/2024 1:11 PM PST Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>S=
o with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule? Had we =
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project. So=
me of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertification=
could very well be a major problem in these times. So what is the al=
ternative, buy a new system? Some of us have already committed to rac=
e with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until So=
noma. Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not to=
mention a potential large expense.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We were enco=
uraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the assumptio=
n that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be allowed to ru=
n as is. Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last minute does n=
ot sit well. No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t think the rul=
e is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unreasonable.</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso=
-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ken</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from <a href=
=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for Windows<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto'> </p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0p=
t;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif'>From: </span></strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t">vfracing--- via Fot</a><br><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif'>Sent: </span></strong>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br><s=
trong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To: </span></strong>=
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT Triumph</a><br><strong><span styl=
e=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject: </span></strong>[Fot] Heads=
Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><di=
v><div id=3Dydpcd388636yiv1885551611><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Advanced warning:</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif'>The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and s=
ome of the other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. Notably, plumbed in =
systems are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessi=
ble to the driver and the other accessible to a course worker without havin=
g to lean into the car. Furthermore, they must be re-certified every =
two years. Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and=
new this year (2024)</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>For more det=
ail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at <a href=3D"https:/=
/svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf" target=3D=
"_blank">https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_2=
4.pdf</a>.</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-ser=
if'> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Phil Gott</span></p><p class=
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