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Mark,Our experience with the oiling issues is that it was a GT6 problem th=
at was resolved for TR6 engines. My wife's TR6 race engine seems perfectly =
happy without external oiling to the cam bearings and we also run an extern=
al oil line to the back of the head for the rockers. We haven't had any bea=
ring issues (we do have actual cam bearings, not just the bare borings), an=
d I know Allen Washatko ran the same setup on his somewhat hotter TR6. We h=
ave an Accusump plumbed into the blank fitting just above the oil filter ho=
using (it's a threaded aluminum plug that we drilled out). We run a stock o=
il pump with an extended pickup in a deepend pan and oiling hasn't been an =
issue at all. Email me back if you'd like to discuss or have me send some p=
hotos of our setup.
Cheers,Jake Jacobsen=C2=A0=C2=A0
On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 11:15:57 AM CST, Joe Alexander via Fot=
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Inquiry about oil system for TR6 Race Engine.
Seems like this guy is a candidate for FOT.
Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613ARE =C2=A0LLCGasketinnovati=
ons.comEmail: N197tr4@cs.comCell: =C2=A0319.464.4711
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mark Cook <mecook@mindspring.com>
Date: January 18, 2024 at 9:17:20=E2=80=AFAM CST
To: JOSEPH ALEXANDER <n197tr4@cs.com>
Subject: RE: Kas Kastner - Oil Manifold (Suzanne Winters)
=EF=BB=BF
Joe,
=C2=A0
Thanks for the follow up.=C2=A0 Actually, it is an auxiliary external oil s=
ystem for the main bearings. =C2=A0=C2=A0I am exploring this as I understan=
d the main bearings in the TR6 do not receive adequate oil flow in race con=
ditions.=C2=A0 I currently have a BMW Spec E46 330Ci which has a robust eng=
ine and oil system.=C2=A0 So, the TR6 race engine is a new project for me.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 I owned a =E2=80=9970 MG Midget and =E2=80=9970 TR6 =E2=80=9Cb=
ack in the day=E2=80=9D, but were street driven.
=C2=A0
Attached are excerpts from the most recent version of Kastner=E2=80=99s Tri=
umph preparation manual (pages 130-135).=C2=A0 I included the section on oi=
l pumps through oil sump.=C2=A0 In the book, there is a discussion about th=
e external distribution hoses on the GT6, he mentions that he =E2=80=9Cstop=
ped all oil from going to the normal openings to the main gallery=E2=80=9D.=
=C2=A0 Also, I understand the black manifold in one of the pictures =E2=80=
=9Cmeters=E2=80=9D the oil flow. =C2=A0One of the pictures shows a feed lin=
e (the large black braided line) as going to the accusump.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It i=
s this black oil manifold that I cannot find a source or enough information=
even to ensure constructing it properly.=C2=A0 I want to avoid simply havi=
ng a tube with fittings made, then find it does not work as intended.=20
=C2=A0
With regards to an oiler for the rocker arms, I see that there is heavy deb=
ate in most of the forums, many implying that it would starve the main bear=
ings.=C2=A0 There seems to be no consensus.
=C2=A0
Anything you can provide would be helpful.
=C2=A0
Thanks again,
=C2=A0
Mark Cook
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: JOSEPH ALEXANDER [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 9:16 AM
To: Mark Cook
Subject: Re: Kas Kastner - Oil Manifold (Suzanne Winters)
=C2=A0
I am not familiar with this feature as you described it. Can you provide a =
digital?
=C2=A0
Is it an oiler for the rocker arms?
=C2=A0
Regards,
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
Alexander Racing Ent.
Website: Gasketinnovations.com
Email: N197tr4@cs.com
Cell: =C2=A0319.464.4711
=C2=A0
On Jan 17, 2024, at 3:51=E2=80=AFPM, Mark Cook <mecook@mindspring.com> wrot=
e:
=EF=BB=BF
Joe,
=C2=A0
Suzanne Winters (Kas Kastner site) referred me to you regarding the Kastner=
external oil manifold. =C2=A0=C2=A0I am working with a local Triumph enthu=
siast to build another race engine for my =E2=80=9869 TR6 (using a =E2=80=
=9975 engine) and would like to use the Kastner external oil system.=C2=A0 =
The existing engine has an external oil system that a prior owner cobbled t=
ogether with, well, odds and ends.=C2=A0 It is routed the same, but not sur=
e how effective it was when the car was running.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Anything I can=
find does not provide detail on how the manifold =E2=80=9Cmeters=E2=80=9D =
the oil.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Suzanne thought you might be able to provide assistanc=
e or point me in the right direction, even possibly where we can purchase a=
manifold.
=C2=A0
Thanks in advance,
=C2=A0
Mark Cook
Apex, NC
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mark,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Our experience with the oiling issues is that it was =
a GT6 problem that was resolved for TR6 engines. My wife's TR6 race engine =
seems perfectly happy without external oiling to the cam bearings and we al=
so run an external oil line to the back of the head for the rockers. We hav=
en't had any bearing issues (we do have actual cam bearings, not just the b=
are borings), and I know Allen Washatko ran the same setup on his somewhat =
hotter TR6. We have an Accusump plumbed into the blank fitting just above t=
he oil filter housing (it's a threaded aluminum plug that we drilled out). =
We run a stock oil pump with an extended pickup in a deepend pan and oiling=
hasn't been an issue at all. Email me back if you'd like to discuss or hav=
e me send some photos of our setup.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Cheers,</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jake Jacobsen </div><div><br></di=
v>
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On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 11:15:57 AM CST, Joe A=
lexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809"><div>Inquiry abou=
t oil system for TR6 Race Engine.<div><br></div><div>Seems like this guy is=
a candidate for FOT.<br><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"ydpd184d286yiv044957=
7809lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>450=
5 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div>ARE LLC</div><d=
iv>Gasketinnovations.com</div><div>Email: N197tr4@cs.com</div><div>Cell: &n=
bsp;319.464.4711</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Begin forwa=
rded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><b>Fr=
om:</b> Mark Cook <mecook@mindspring.com><br><b>Date:</b> January 18,=
2024 at 9:17:20=E2=80=AFAM CST<br><b>To:</b> JOSEPH ALEXANDER <n197tr4@=
cs.com><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>RE: Kas Kastner - Oil Manifold (Suzanne Wi=
nters)</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Joe,<=
/span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Thanks for the follow up. Actually,=
it is an auxiliary external oil system for the main bearings. =
I am exploring this as I understand the main bearings in the TR6 do not rec=
eive adequate oil flow in race conditions. I currently have a BMW Spe=
c E46 330Ci which has a robust engine and oil system. So, the TR6 rac=
e engine is a new project for me. I owned a =E2=80=9970 MG Midg=
et and =E2=80=9970 TR6 =E2=80=9Cback in the day=E2=80=9D, but were street d=
riven.</span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Attached are excerpts from the mos=
t recent version of Kastner=E2=80=99s Triumph preparation manual (pages 130=
-135). I included the section on oil pumps through oil sump. In=
the book, there is a discussion about the external distribution hoses on t=
he GT6, he mentions that he =E2=80=9Cstopped all oil from going to the norm=
al openings to the main gallery=E2=80=9D. Also, I understand the blac=
k manifold in one of the pictures =E2=80=9Cmeters=E2=80=9D the oil flow. &n=
bsp;One of the pictures shows a feed line (the large black braided line) as=
going to the accusump. It is this black oil manifold that I ca=
nnot find a source or enough information even to ensure constructing it pro=
perly. I want to avoid simply having a tube with fittings made, then =
find it does not work as intended. </span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv044=
9577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class=
=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">With =
regards to an oiler for the rocker arms, I see that there is heavy debate i=
n most of the forums, many implying that it would starve the main bearings.=
There seems to be no consensus.</span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv=
0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">An=
ything you can provide would be helpful.</span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286y=
iv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p =
class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">=
Thanks again,</span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449=
577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Mark Cook</span></p><p clas=
s=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:#1F497D;"></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></di=
v><div id=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809"><div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809WordSection1"><=
p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;=
"></span><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286y=
iv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"><=
/span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ydpd1=
84d286yiv0449577809"><div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpd184=
d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"></span><span sty=
le=3D"color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><div style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p clas=
s=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> JOSEPH ALEXANDER [mail=
to:n197tr4@cs.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 18, 2024 9:16 AM<br><=
b>To:</b> Mark Cook<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Kas Kastner - Oil Manifold (Suza=
nne Winters)</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoN=
ormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">I am not f=
amiliar with this feature as you described it. Can you provide a digital?</=
p><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p></div><div=
><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Is it an oiler for the rock=
er arms?</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Regards,</p=
><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class=3D"=
ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Joe Alexander</p><div><p class=3D"ydpd18=
4d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">4505 Donald Dr</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd1=
84d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Cedar Falls, IA 50613</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Alexander Racing Ent.</p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Website: Gasketinnovations.c=
om</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Email: N197=
tr4@cs.com</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Cel=
l: 319.464.4711</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809Mso=
Normal"> </p></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809Mso=
Normal"><br><br></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpd184d286=
yiv0449577809MsoNormal">On Jan 17, 2024, at 3:51=E2=80=AFPM, Mark Cook <=
mecook@mindspring.com> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5=
.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNorm=
al">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;"></span></p><=
p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Joe,</p><p class=3D"ydpd184d2=
86yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809Mso=
Normal">Suzanne Winters (Kas Kastner site) referred me to you regarding the=
Kastner external oil manifold. I am working with a local Trium=
ph enthusiast to build another race engine for my =E2=80=9869 TR6 (using a =
=E2=80=9975 engine) and would like to use the Kastner external oil system.&=
nbsp; The existing engine has an external oil system that a prior owner cob=
bled together with, well, odds and ends. It is routed the same, but n=
ot sure how effective it was when the car was running. Anything=
I can find does not provide detail on how the manifold =E2=80=9Cmeters=E2=
=80=9D the oil. Suzanne thought you might be able to provide as=
sistance or point me in the right direction, even possibly where we can pur=
chase a manifold.</p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> <=
/p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p><p =
class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpd184d2=
86yiv0449577809MsoNormal">Mark Cook</p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809=
MsoNormal">Apex, NC</p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> =
;</p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"y=
dpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv04495=
77809MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpd184d286yiv0449577809MsoNormal">&n=
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