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Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

To: JOE CURRY <spitlist@cox.net>, "Barr, Scott via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>, Rod Pierce <rpierce141@gmail.com>, "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
From: fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
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 Are you sure that it was a GT-6 gearset, ie not spit internals?
Glen Efinger

    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 01:10:00 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <=
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And yet it worked fine.=C2=A0 Perfectly.=C2=A0 Go figure.
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From: JOE CURRY <spitlist@cox.net>=20
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:33 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>; Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.tea=
m.net>; Rod Pierce <rpierce141@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can'=
t see how that would work.=C2=A0 The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has=
 a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft ge=
ar won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.=C2=A0 Here is a link to the su=
mmary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to wo=
rk with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:=
 =C2=A0https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.
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On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local racer-transm=
ission guy.=C2=A0 After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire in=
put shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.=C2=A0 GT6 gearbox for my S=
pit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.=C2=A0 It worked great for a =
few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
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Could just be luck?=C2=A0 I understand that there are a number of variation=
s of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that mat=
ched?=C2=A0 Who knows.=C2=A0 But it worked for me.
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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
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I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can=
 be converted to run in a Spitfire.=C2=A0=C2=A0
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I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for i=
nformation/advice on the best way to do it.
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It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either machine=
d to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld=
 the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
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Thanks
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp27b6b7dcyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Are you sure that it was a G=
T-6 gearset, ie not spit internals?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glen Efinger<br></div=
><div><br></div>
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55e622yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 01:10:00 PM EDT, Barr,=
 Scott via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">And yet it worked fine.&nbsp=
; Perfectly.&nbsp; Go figure.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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812yqt6610207986"><div>
<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> JOE CURRY &lt;s=
pitlist@cox.net&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:33 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott &lt;sbarr@McCarty-Law.com&gt;; Barr, Scott via Fot &=
lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;; Rod Pierce &lt;rpierce141@gmail.com&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Since the GT6 gearbox has a =
different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.&n=
bsp; The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to=
 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't mesh with
 the gears in the GT6 box.&nbsp; Here is a link to the summary of what I di=
d way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small jo=
urnal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit: &nbsp;<a shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospi=
t.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCi=
ty/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html</a>.
</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Joe </p>=20
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Ba=
rr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">When I had this done some ye=
ars ago, I took the job to a local racer-transmission guy.&nbsp; After fidd=
ling with it a bit, he just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans=
 and
 it worked fine.&nbsp; GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, =
etc. required.&nbsp; It worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to=
 install an overdrive trans.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Could just be luck?&nbsp; I =
understand that there are a number of variations of gear constructions and =
maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched?&nbsp; Who knows.&nbsp;=
 But it worked
 for me.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-=
family:sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D=
"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot-=
bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></stron=
g>Rod Pierce via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Thurs=
day, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> Rod Pie=
rce via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [F=
ot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">I have a GT6 transmission in=
 my spares collection and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Sp=
itfire.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">I'm interested in accomplish=
ing this over the winter and I am looking for information/advice on the bes=
t way to do it.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">It is my understanding that =
you can have the GT6 input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the =
input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 tra=
nsmission.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">Thanks</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpab55e622yiv4377886812MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
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