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I had the same problem back in 2016-2017. =C2=A0I tried everything includin=
g crack checking the head. Changing out the head solved=C2=A0the problem. H=
opefully you have an extra race prepared head.I have seen casting leak on o=
ther cars due to lack of casting density.
Mike Munson #28 EP TR6
On Monday, September 25, 2023, 1:40 AM, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:
#yiv6354514897 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Well...
Finally took the five minutes that I should have weeks ago.
Put a straight edge across the head.The squish zone above the #2 cylinder i=
s literally squished.As much at 0.01" toward the center of the cylinder, bu=
t more importantly, 0.007" between the coolant passages and the gasket seal=
ing ring.
Cost myself a lot of time, money, and frustration.
Live and learn.
Will try to get the head surfaced tomorrow first thing and then go from the=
re.Could be cracked inside the water jacket and the valve seats could be wa=
rped for all I know.Though, I did lap the intake and exhaust in that cylind=
er and everything seemed to be seating properly.
Thanks for everyone's feedback,
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Anthony Parker via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 8:02 PM
To: Robert Lang <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>; FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum=C2=A0<!--#yiv6354514897 p {margin-top:=
0;margin-bottom:0;}-->Thanks Rich, Robert, and everyone else.
More digging..
White sludge in valve cover.Watery oil in tappets.
Head is off and stripped, ready for the machine shop.
Strange that this morning before the third test, the oil was clear and clea=
n.
We'll see if the head or the block is the problem.=C2=A0=C2=A0With my recen=
t luck, it could be both.
From: Robert Lang <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:45 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>; Anthony Parker <solarant@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum=C2=A0The cooling of the radiator and t=
emp spike seem to indicate an air bubble in the system. It could get there =
from spot temps causing localized boiling or it could come from a pressure =
leak from the combustion chamber or head gasket.
If you think you have a cracked head or bad head gasket, try pressurizing t=
he system and see if the pressure holds. Stant makes a tool like, there are=
probably others, but buy or borrow this tool. It takes all the guess work =
out of such problems. My rule of thumb is to bring it up to cap pressure an=
d see if it holds for at last 30 minutes (plus or minus a couple of lb is o=
kay, but loosing half or more in less than 30 minutes is a dead giveaway.
I would also verify that the ignition timing is not too far advanced. Not t=
hat I ever had that problem. :-)
Note that you can also use the Stant gauge to verify "normal" system pressu=
re - you want to do that to make sure your cap pressure will keep the coola=
nt from boiling.
Good luck figuring out the problem.
Regards,Bob Lang
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 02:05:24 PM EDT, Anthony Parker via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
I'm having cooling problems.Need help being convinced that I have to do wha=
t I don't want to do.
Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.
Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses=
and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and c=
oolant temp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.
Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the=
radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and co=
olant shot everywhere.
No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system is completely fu=
ll
Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventua=
lly removing pump prime.
Don't know what else it could be.
Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?
Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?
I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.
Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony._________________________=
______________________
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I had the same problem back in 2016-2017. I tried everything includin=
g crack checking the head. Changing out the head solved the problem. H=
opefully you have an extra race prepared head.<div>I have seen casting leak=
on other cars due to lack of casting density.<br><br><br><div class=3D"yah=
oo-signature">Mike Munson #28 EP TR6</div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begi=
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Well...</div>
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Finally took the five minutes that I should have weeks ago.</div>
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Put a straight edge across the head.</div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"yiv6354514897elementToProof">
The squish zone above the #2 cylinder is literally squished.</div>
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As much at 0.01" toward the center of the cylinder, but more importantly, 0=
.007" between the coolant passages and the gasket sealing ring.</div>
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Cost myself a lot of time, money, and frustration.</div>
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Live and learn.</div>
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Will try to get the head surfaced tomorrow first thing and then go from the=
re.</div>
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Could be cracked inside the water jacket and the valve seats could be warpe=
d for all I know.</div>
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Though, I did lap the intake and exhaust in that cylinder and everything se=
emed to be seating properly.</div>
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Thanks for everyone's feedback,</div>
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nces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 23, 2023 8:02 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Robert Lang <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>; FOT Triumph <fot=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
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Thanks Rich, Robert, and everyone else.</div>
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More digging..</div>
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White sludge in valve cover.</div>
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Watery oil in tappets.</div>
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Head is off and stripped, ready for the machine shop.</div>
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Strange that this morning before the third test, the oil was clear and clea=
n.</div>
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We'll see if the head or the block is the problem. </div>
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With my recent luck, it could be both.</div>
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ng <robertlangtr6@yahoo.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:45 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>; Anthony Parker <solar=
ant@hotmail.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The cooling of the radiator and temp spike seem to indicat=
e an air bubble in the system. It could get there from spot temps causing l=
ocalized boiling or it could come from a pressure leak from the combustion =
chamber or head
gasket.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you think you have a cracked head or bad head gasket, t=
ry pressurizing the system and see if the pressure holds. Stant makes a too=
l like, there are probably others, but buy or borrow this tool. It takes al=
l the guess work
out of such problems. My rule of thumb is to bring it up to cap pressure a=
nd see if it holds for at last 30 minutes (plus or minus a couple of lb is =
okay, but loosing half or more in less than 30 minutes is a dead giveaway.<=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would also verify that the ignition timing is not too fa=
r advanced. Not that I ever had that problem. :-)</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Note that you can also use the Stant gauge to verify "norm=
al" system pressure - you want to do that to make sure your cap pressure wi=
ll keep the coolant from boiling.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck figuring out the problem.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div>
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Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<span style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv6354514897x_x_ydpf09cc1feyiv8718614=
122ContentPasted0">I'm having cooling problems.</span></div>
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Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.</div>
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Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.<br clear=3D=
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22ContentPasted0">Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up w=
ith radiator hoses and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiat=
or will cool and coolant temp will spike to 230+.
Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.</div>
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22ContentPasted0">Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and=
when I opened the radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pres=
surized air and coolant shot everywhere.</div>
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rgb(255,255,255);" class=3D"yiv6354514897x_x_ydpf09cc1feyiv8718614122Conten=
tPasted1">No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system
is completely full</span><br clear=3D"none">
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22ContentPasted0">Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and th=
en bubbles eventually removing pump prime.</div>
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Don't know what else it could be.</div>
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Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.</div>
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