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Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum

To: David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo.com>, FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
From: Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 18:36:31 +0000
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Thanks Dave,

GT6 engine. Not wet lined. Only 0.01" over bore.

I understand your scenario.



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From: David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 2:18 PM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant@hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum

Anthony,

Is this a wet liner triumph engine?  It does sound like a cracked liner iss=
ue we had on one of our engines; no smoking gun and leak down pressurizing =
cooling system didn=92t show it; only when it got hot did the leak show=85

Dave Gott


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On Saturday, September 23, 2023, 1:53 PM, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

I'm having cooling problems.
Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.

Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.

Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses=
 and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and c=
oolant temp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.

Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the=
 radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and co=
olant shot everywhere.

No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system is completely fu=
ll

Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventua=
lly removing pump prime.

Don't know what else it could be.

Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?

Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?

I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.

Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.
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GT6 engine. Not wet lined. Only 0.01&quot; over bore.</div>
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I understand your scenario.</div>
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<b>To:</b> Anthony Parker &lt;solarant@hotmail.com&gt;; FOT Triumph &lt;fot=
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<div>Anthony,
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<div>Is this a wet liner triumph engine? &nbsp;It does sound like a cracked=
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ssurizing cooling system didn=92t show it; only when it got hot did the lea=
k show=85</div>
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<div>Dave Gott<br>
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On Saturday, September 23, 2023, 1:53 PM, Anthony Parker via Fot &lt;fot@au=
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Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.</div>
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Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.<br>
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e trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses and radi=
ator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and coolant te=
mp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold
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clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the radiator=
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t everywhere.</div>
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<div class=3D"x_yiv0505834595ContentPasted0" style=3D"margin:0px">Seems I h=
ave combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventually remov=
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Don't know what else it could be.</div>
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Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some &=
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Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?</div>
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I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
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Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.</div>
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