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Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks

To: "R. John Lye" <rjl6n@cstone.net>, "jwheeler1947@yahoo.com" <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, "jaboruch@yahoo.com" <jaboruch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks
From: f s via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:44:15 +0000
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I knew Bill when I was a kid. He rebuilt a diff for me.



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From: "R. John Lye via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: 9/21/23 10:46 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: jwheeler1947@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net, jaboruch@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks

Wow, Bill Boemmler is a name that I recognize from my time in St. Louis.  H=
e was indeed
a skilled machinist and did some really cool tricks just like Jack describe=
d.

Thanks,
John

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:


I've read a number of responses to this and all are good ideas.  When I was=
 racing with an A-Type overdrive, I met a guy from St. Louis named Bill Boe=
mmler, a TR-3 racer from the 50's & 60's.  Bill was also a skilled machinis=
t and had a small machine shop behind his house.  Everything I know about t=
he A-Type overdrive, I learned from Bill.

The bottom of the adapter plate is fastened by 2 studs, one in each corner.=
  It generally leaks between these 2 studs.  Bill would drill and tap for t=
wo additional small bolts (about 1/2" long), spaced evenly between the 2 st=
uds.  Two holes were drilled in the adapter plate, aligned with two holes w=
hich were drilled and tapped into the overdrive housing for a 1/4" - 20 hex=
 bolt.  This, of course, has to be done when the overdrive is apart, and th=
e holes are drilled and tapped into the rear of the O/D housing.  When asse=
mbling, it is a tight fit to get these two bolts in between the gearbox hou=
sing and the adapter plate, so the bolts need to be short. just long enough=
 to get a firm threading into the O/D housing.  They should be secured with=
 either lock tight or safety wire.

This process is a little hard to explain, so if you want a better descripti=
on either call me or contact me offline.  I had Bill perform this modificat=
ion on all of my race and street car overdrives, and after this modificatio=
n, I never had a leak in this area.

Cheers,

Jack

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:17:01 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote:


I have a leaky a-type OD in my street TR4 that looks like it's leaking from=
 near the adapter plate.  I have never taken one apart.  Can I just separat=
e the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets or the adapter plate (I've =
heard that Quantum Mechanics sells an uprated plate and am checking with Jo=
hn to see if he has one) and then reassemble without needing to take the OD=
 apart further?  There is a youtube video that shows an OD being separated =
and it looks like it is do able.  Thoughts?  JoeB
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<div>From: &quot;R. John Lye via Fot&quot; &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; </div=
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<div>Date: 9/21/23 10:46 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks </div>
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Wow, Bill Boemmler is a name that I recognize from my time in St. Louis.&nb=
sp; He was indeed<br>
a skilled machinist and did some really cool tricks just like Jack describe=
d.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
John &nbsp; <br>
<br>
<span>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC), Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;fo=
t@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</span><br>
&nbsp;
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eue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:13px">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I've read a number of responses to this and all are good i=
deas.&nbsp; When I was racing with an A-Type overdrive, I met a guy from St=
. Louis named Bill Boemmler, a TR-3 racer from the 50's &amp; 60's.&nbsp; B=
ill was also a skilled machinist and had a small
 machine shop behind his house.&nbsp; Everything I know about the A-Type ov=
erdrive, I learned from Bill.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The bottom of the adapter plate is fastened by 2 studs, on=
e in each corner.&nbsp; It generally leaks between these 2 studs.&nbsp; Bil=
l would drill and tap for two additional small bolts (about 1/2&quot; long)=
, spaced evenly between the 2 studs.&nbsp; Two holes were
 drilled in the adapter plate, aligned with two holes which were drilled an=
d tapped into the overdrive housing for a 1/4&quot; - 20 hex bolt.&nbsp; Th=
is, of course, has to be done when the overdrive is apart, and the holes ar=
e drilled and tapped into the rear of the
 O/D housing.&nbsp; When assembling, it is a tight fit to get these two bol=
ts in between the gearbox housing and the adapter plate, so the bolts need =
to be short. just long enough to get a firm threading into the O/D housing.=
&nbsp; They should be secured with either
 lock tight or safety wire.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">This process is a little hard to explain, so if you want a=
 better description either call me or contact me offline.&nbsp; I had Bill =
perform this modification on all of my race and street car overdrives, and =
after this modification, I never had a
 leak in this area.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack</div>
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<div>On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:17:01 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a leaky a-type OD in my street TR4 that looks like =
it's leaking from near the adapter plate.&nbsp; I have never taken one apar=
t.&nbsp; Can I just separate the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets =
or the adapter plate (I've heard that Quantum
 Mechanics sells an uprated plate and am checking with John to see if he ha=
s one) and then reassemble without needing to take the OD apart further?&nb=
sp; There is a youtube video that shows an OD being separated and it looks =
like it is do able.&nbsp; Thoughts?&nbsp; JoeB</div>
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