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Re: [Fot] Anyone racing at the Ozark’s track in October

To: Bob Kramer Gmail <rkramer56@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Anyone racing at the Ozark’s track in October
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 09:04:08 -0500
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We were there. It is an exceptional track with exceptional infrastructure.

It would be a great venue for a mid-west Kastner Cup, someday.

I am glad you brought this up.  

ARE recommends it.  Strongly.

Joe Alexander
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 8:54 AM, Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hijack the thread but my phone does not seem to be able to send 
> emails to the list, so Iâ??ll ask it this way. 
> 
> There is a race at the new track in the Ozarks, October 13-15 I think. Tony 
> attended last year. This event is on the weekend following our CVAR weekend 
> at Hallett. It's another 5 hours tow for me but it would be worth it if a 
> gaggle of Triumphs are coming from the other direction. Does anyone have this 
> race on their calendar this year. Tony liked it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:08 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Club events!
>> 
>>>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 12:04, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we 
>>> racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options are 
>>> the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
>>> 
>>> Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many 
>>> aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of event. 
>>> We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check out cars 
>>> we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our cars run 
>>> against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the fun. However, 
>>> the differences I see between the two types of events are as follows:
>>> 
>>> Festival Events
>>> 
>>> Typically higher entrance fees.
>>> Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a wide 
>>> variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility of 
>>> incidents, shortening sessions.
>>> Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility with 
>>> the packed schedule.
>>> Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from a 
>>> wide variety of media.
>>> 
>>> ~
>>> 
>>> Club Events
>>> 
>>> Typically lower entrance fees.
>>> More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run 
>>> group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't usually 
>>> have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted by guys 
>>> with big checkbooks and limited experience.
>>> Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good 
>>> exposure from the normal sources.
>>> 
>>> ~
>>> 
>>> I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the biggest 
>>> draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated track miles 
>>> raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is all fine and 
>>> good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer friends share this 
>>> general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the success of the 2023 event 
>>> where we had strong numbers in general, and very strong numbers for racers 
>>> with very long tows.
>>> 
>>> Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer future 
>>> Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
>>> 
>>> While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run at? 
>>> That would be helpful information as well!
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Henry Frye
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
>>>> I suppose it wouldnâ??t have to be. However the Mitty is attended very
>>>> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran
>>>> at Road Atlanta.
>>>> Ronnie
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road Atlanta 
>>>>>> During the Mitty.
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