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I can't give you any data on HP gains, but with proper engine management, =
you should be able to increase the efficiency of the engine. And if you car=
e to play with the fuel maps, you can def. wring some HP out. The drawback =
is that if you try too hard, things go bad... fast.
There's no question that fuel injection is better. But it also flies in the=
face of "vintage", so it depends on what you're after. I'd say for a vinta=
ge racer - it's a non-starter. For anyone else looking for power, maybe and=
for anyone looking for efficiency, repeatability and dependability - fuel =
injection, electronic fuel injection, is a no brainer.
Carbs, on the other hand are simple, once you get past the notion that they=
are simple. And you just live with the compromises.
As far as kits go, there's a guy in ME Rick Patton that sells a setup using=
the stock Zenith Stromberg carb bodies and a re-mapped pre OBD computer. T=
hat setup has been installed in a lot of cars going back around 20 years. I=
t's a pretty good system and can be made to look almost stock. There's anot=
her series of kits designed by Ramin Mirshab that uses port injection and a=
throttle body paired with a MicroSquirt 3 controller. This setup can be ma=
de to look very much like the TR6 PI setup with the intake air "log". rat-c=
o.com has been listing this kit for 6-pot Triumphs as well as 4-pot TR's an=
d Spitfires. The setup looks pretty good. I haven't seen any numbers on eit=
her setup, but they offer better efficiency and tuneability - especially th=
e MicroSquirt controlled setup. With a laptop, a chassis dyno and some time=
and money, you should be able to squeeze some HP out of pretty much any se=
tup.
Didn't answer your question, but there you are.
Regards,Bob Lang
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Does anyone out there have data on throttle body fuel injection on any
of the triumph motors?=C2=A0 Any Hp gains? Kits out there etc?
Can talk off line but trying to research.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I can't give you any data on=
HP gains, but with proper engine management, you should be able to increas=
e the efficiency of the engine. And if you care to play with the fuel maps,=
you can def. wring some HP out. The drawback is that if you try too hard, =
things go bad... fast.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">There's no question that fuel inje=
ction is better. But it also flies in the face of "vintage", so it depends =
on what you're after. I'd say for a vintage racer - it's a non-starter. For=
anyone else looking for power, maybe and for anyone looking for efficiency=
, repeatability and dependability - fuel injection, electronic fuel injecti=
on, is a no brainer.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Carbs, on the other hand are simple,=
once you get past the notion that they are simple. And you just live with =
the compromises.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">As far as kits go, there's a guy in ME R=
ick Patton that sells a setup using the stock Zenith Stromberg carb bodies =
and a re-mapped pre OBD computer. That setup has been installed in a lot of=
cars going back around 20 years. It's a pretty good system and can be made=
to look almost stock. There's another series of kits designed by Ramin Mir=
shab that uses port injection and a throttle body paired with a MicroSquirt=
3 controller. This setup can be made to look very much like the TR6 PI set=
up with the intake air "log". rat-co.com has been listing this kit for 6-po=
t Triumphs as well as 4-pot TR's and Spitfires. The setup looks pretty good=
. I haven't seen any numbers on either setup, but they offer better efficie=
ncy and tuneability - especially the MicroSquirt controlled setup. With a l=
aptop, a chassis dyno and some time and money, you should be able to squeez=
e some HP out of pretty much any setup.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Didn't answer=
your question, but there you are.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
se"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=
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