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A vote for the "club" type events!
Although the spectator experience at the big time events can't be beat,
being a driver at a big festival event doesn't do anything for me. For my
vintage racing approach, I prefer the low key events.
Keep it simple, keep it fun, keep it accessible.
Jason Sukey
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:59=E2=80=AFAM yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.n=
et>
wrote:
> This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we
> racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options
> are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
>
> Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many
> aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of
> event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check
> out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our
> cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the
> fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are
> as follows:
>
> Festival Events
>
> Typically higher entrance fees.
> Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a
> wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility
> of incidents, shortening sessions.
> Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility
> with the packed schedule.
> Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from
> a wide variety of media.
>
> ~
>
> Club Events
>
> Typically lower entrance fees.
> More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run
> group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't
> usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted
> by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
> Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good
> exposure from the normal sources.
>
> ~
>
> I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the
> biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated
> track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is
> all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer
> friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the
> success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and
> very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.
>
> Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer
> future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
>
> While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run
> at? That would be helpful information as well!
>
> Cheers
>
> Henry Frye
>
>
> On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
> > I suppose it wouldn=E2=80=99t have to be. However the Mitty is attended=
very
> > well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran
> > at Road Atlanta.
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> =EF=BB=BFWould it have to be at the Mitty?
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot
> >>> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> =EF=BB=BFIs there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road=
Atlanta
> >>> During the Mitty.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">A vote for the "club" type events!=C2=A0=C2=A0<d=
iv><br><div>Although the spectator=C2=A0experience at the big time events c=
an't be beat, being a driver at a big festival event=C2=A0doesn't d=
o anything=C2=A0for me.=C2=A0 For my vintage racing approach, I prefer the =
low key events.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kee=
p it simple, keep it fun, keep it accessible.</div><div><br></div><div>Jaso=
n Sukey</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11=
:59=E2=80=AFAM yellow04 via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>f=
ot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex">This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of =
event we <br>
racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options <br>
are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.<br>
<br>
Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many <br=
>
aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of <br>
event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check <br=
>
out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our <=
br>
cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the <br>
fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are <br=
>
as follows:<br>
<br>
Festival Events<br>
<br>
Typically higher entrance fees.<br>
Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a <br>
wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility <br=
>
of incidents, shortening sessions.<br>
Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility <br>
with the packed schedule.<br>
Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from <br=
>
a wide variety of media.<br>
<br>
~<br>
<br>
Club Events<br>
<br>
Typically lower entrance fees.<br>
More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run <br=
>
group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't <br>
usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted <b=
r>
by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.<br>
Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good <br>
exposure from the normal sources.<br>
<br>
~<br>
<br>
I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the=
<br>
biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated <br>
track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is <b=
r>
all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer <br>
friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the <br=
>
success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and <br>
very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.<br>
<br>
Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer <br>
future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?<br>
<br>
While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run <br>
at? That would be helpful information as well!<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Henry Frye<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:<br>
> I suppose it wouldn=E2=80=99t have to be. However the Mitty is attende=
d very<br>
> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran<=
br>
> at Road Atlanta.<br>
> <br>
> Ronnie<br>
> <br>
>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">chasgee22@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> =EF=BB=BFWould it have to be at the Mitty?<br>
>> <br>
>> Chuck<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot <br>
>>> <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fo=
t@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> =EF=BB=BFIs there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back =
to Road Atlanta <br>
>>> During the Mitty.<br>
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