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To: f s <whitedog72@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
From: Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 16:57:15 -0600
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Mike D.
Good to hear that you are inquiring about the GT6 axles.
This is one of the main development points of any significant GT6.=20
Perhaps the most important.
I=E2=80=99d stay away from anything with even the slightest whiff of a swing=
 axle design.
Consider engineering designs for much more powerful cars.
 Smart custom engineering is required.=20
Options often  Include parts from:
-Datsun 240-280 style as proven by Steve Smith.=20
-TR6=E2=80=99s=20
-Corvair=20
-Corvette
-Custom made.
People that follow wisdom on this topic, end up with great cars.

Several of the best GT6=E2=80=99s ever built will be available for viewing a=
t Road America this summer at the Kastner Cup.=20
You likely won=E2=80=99t find all the answers to this query in a simple inte=
rnet thread.=20
However, most, if not all of your questions can be answered by studying some=
 very successful examples that will be kicking ass on track. The actively ra=
cing GT6 guys are doing some cool stuff and will be available to lead you in=
 the right direction.=20
Jason Ostrowski=20
Friendly Ghost Racing=20
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, f s via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I can confirm Steves design is great. I have them on my Gt6. Handled north=
 of 170hp and slicks no problem. =20
> Wish my engine would have been as reliable......
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>=20
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: gt6steve--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/19/23 10:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Brian Dolan <bdolan1776@gmail.com>, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
>=20
> The ones I built were Group 44 style Datsun rotating bits. Never failed
>=20
>=20
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>=20
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023, 5:06 PM, Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> I'm not the equipment expert...Dad is.=20
>=20
> My recollection is that the Group 44 car ran Datsun parts mated to Triumph=
 stub axles.=20
> Our consistent issue was either differentials blowing, or stub axles shear=
ing.=20
> 50 year old metal isn't up to the stresses of modern rubber and engine tun=
ing capabilities, at least not for long.=20
>=20
> We tried doing a subaru set up on one of the cars, it wasn't successful in=
itially. Development is ongoing. Always seeking safety and reliability.=20
>=20
> Brian
>=20
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:42 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
> to answer Mike=E2=80=99s earlier question, I recall, maybe 5-6 years ago, s=
eeing Jim Dolan at Summit Point in the carousel in either the Group 44 GT6 o=
r the Kastner GT6, and one of his rear wheels going past him.  I think he ha=
d five laps on the Rimmer or Canley assembly and the hub sheared off.  Fortu=
nately a low speed part of the track.  Not sure if that was a one-off, and h=
e subsequently went on to run them without trouble.  Perhaps the Dolans can c=
hime in as to what they run on their numerous GT6s and what this failure was=
.
>=20
>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Bob Totten via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> Amici,
>>=20
>> The question is which model GT6 you have, Mk1 and MK3 cars have swing axl=
es and the GT6+ has fully articulated axles.  The axles shown in the pics po=
sted are for early and late cars..   Might suggest looking at the CV convers=
ion axles being offered by Canley Classics in England for the GT6+??  I myse=
lf have been running axles made by Snyder Racing & Machine, Michigan ( since=
 have closed their doors ).
>>=20
>> My 2 cents,
>> Bob T
>> '64 Spit GT  autocrosser
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> To: Brian Schirano <bschirano1@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Amici Triumphi <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 12:01 am
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
>>=20
>> I think what Joe has is only for swing axles.  My gt6 came to me with cor=
vair hubs and gm bearings , spicer sliding half shafts and inner and outer u=
 joints. It=E2=80=99s been bulletproof, but requires extensive mods to the u=
prights.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Call Joe curry at chequred flag racing. Pretty much bullet proof axels fo=
r spits and GT6
>> Brian
>>=20
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 7:30 PM Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>> Amici,
>> Are the Rimmers Brothers CV conversion kits suitable for racing?=20
>> OR is there a better solution?=20
>> I've heard of Corvair and even Volkswagen and Subaru, which is best?=20
>> Apologies for not searching the archives first.
>> Cheers
>> --=20
>> Mike Deweerd
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mike D.<div>Good to hear that you are inqui=
ring about the GT6 axles.</div><div>This is one of the main development poin=
ts of any significant GT6.&nbsp;</div><div>Perhaps the most important.</div>=
<div>I=E2=80=99d stay away from anything with even the slightest whiff of a s=
wing axle design.</div><div>Consider engineering designs for much more power=
ful cars.</div><div>&nbsp;Smart custom engineering is required.&nbsp;</div><=
div>Options often &nbsp;Include parts from:</div><div>-Datsun 240-280 style a=
s proven by Steve Smith.&nbsp;</div><div>-TR6=E2=80=99s&nbsp;</div><div>-Cor=
vair&nbsp;</div><div>-Corvette</div><div>-Custom made.</div><div>People that=
 follow wisdom on this topic, end up with great cars.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Several of the best GT6=E2=80=99s ever built will be available for viewin=
g at Road America this summer at the Kastner Cup.&nbsp;</div><div>You likely=
 won=E2=80=99t find all the answers to this query in a simple internet threa=
d.&nbsp;</div><div>However, most, if not all of your questions can be answer=
ed by studying some very successful examples that will be kicking ass on tra=
ck. The actively racing GT6 guys are doing some cool stuff and will be avail=
able to lead you in the right direction.&nbsp;</div><div>Jason Ostrowski&nbs=
p;</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;</div><div>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecar=
s<br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite">On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, f s via Fot &lt;fot@autox.te=
am.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">


<div dir=3D"auto">I can confirm Steves design is great. I have them on my Gt=
6. Handled north of 170hp and slicks no problem.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Wish my engine would have been as reliable......</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:12px; color:#575757">Sent from my T-Mob=
ile 4G LTE Device</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: gt6steve--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 1/19/23 10:53 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Brian Dolan &lt;bdolan1776@gmail.com&gt;, Scott Janzen &lt;sjanzen@=
me.com&gt; </div>
<div>Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The ones I built were Group 44 style Datsun rotating bits. Never failed=
<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id6461=
00661">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br>
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<p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px; color:#715FFA; padd=
ing-top:15px; margin-top:0">
On Thursday, January 19, 2023, 5:06 PM, Brian Dolan via Fot &lt;fot@autox.te=
am.net&gt; wrote:</p>
<blockquote class=3D"iosymail">
<div id=3D"yiv1232472363">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm not the equipment expert...Dad is.&nbsp;
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>My recollection is that the Group 44 car ran Datsun&nbsp;parts mated to=
 Triumph stub axles.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Our consistent issue was either differentials blowing, or stub axles sh=
earing.&nbsp;</div>
<div>50 year old metal isn't up to the stresses of modern rubber and engine t=
uning capabilities, at least not for long.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>We tried doing a subaru set up on one of the cars, it wasn't successful=
&nbsp;initially. Development is ongoing. Always seeking safety and reliabili=
ty.&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Brian</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv1232472363gmail_quote">
<div id=3D"yiv1232472363yqt61571" class=3D"yiv1232472363yqt3138626555">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv1232472363gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5=
:42 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shap=
e=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv1232472363gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"">to answer Mike=E2=80=99s earlier question, I recall, maybe 5=
-6 years ago, seeing Jim Dolan at Summit Point in the carousel in either the=
 Group 44 GT6 or the Kastner GT6, and one of his rear wheels going past him.=
&nbsp; I think he had five laps on the Rimmer
 or Canley assembly and the hub sheared off.&nbsp; Fortunately a low speed p=
art of the track.&nbsp; Not sure if that was a one-off, and he subsequently w=
ent on to run them without trouble.&nbsp; Perhaps the Dolans can chime in as=
 to what they run on their numerous GT6s and
 what this failure was.<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Bob Totten via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:blue; font:14pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div>Amici,<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The question is which model GT6 you have, Mk1 and MK3 cars have swing a=
xles and the GT6+ has fully articulated axles.&nbsp; The axles shown in the p=
ics posted are for early and late cars..&nbsp;&nbsp; Might suggest looking a=
t the CV conversion axles being offered by
 Canley Classics in England for the GT6+??&nbsp; I myself have been running a=
xles made by Snyder Racing &amp; Machine, Michigan ( since have closed their=
 doors ).</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>My 2 cents,</div>
<div>Bob T</div>
<div>'64 Spit GT&nbsp; autocrosser<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica; font-size:10pt">-----Original Mes=
sage-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: Brian Schirano &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bschirano1@gmail.com";>bschirano1@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: Amici Triumphi &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a=
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Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 12:01 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"yiv1232472363m_-3287244964882894771yiv0549638223">
<div>I think what Joe has is only for swing axles.&nbsp; My gt6 came to me w=
ith corvair hubs and gm bearings , spicer sliding half shafts and inner and o=
uter u joints. It=E2=80=99s been bulletproof, but requires extensive mods to=
 the uprights.
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div id=3D"yiv1232472363m_-3287244964882894771yiv0549638223yqtfd14661"><br c=
lear=3D"none">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Brian Schirano via Fo=
t &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div id=3D"yiv1232472363m_-3287244964882894771yiv0549638223yqtfd11718">=EF=BB=
=BF
<div>Call Joe curry at chequred flag racing. Pretty much bullet proof axels f=
or spits and GT6
<div>Brian</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 7:30 PM Michael Deweerd via Fot &lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none">
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,
<div>Are the Rimmers Brothers CV conversion kits suitable for racing?&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div>OR is there a better solution?&nbsp;</div>
<div>I've heard of Corvair and even Volkswagen and Subaru, which is best?&nb=
sp;</div>
<div>Apologies for not searching the archives&nbsp;first.<br clear=3D"all">
<div>Cheers</div>
-- <br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><i>Mike Deweerd</i></div>
</div>
</div>
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