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Re: [Fot] Snap Rings in Pistons

To: "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, "jwheeler1947@yahoo.com" <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Snap Rings in Pistons
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC)
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I would recommend Spirolox if the grooves are wide enough to take them.
Phil Gott


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>; Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Cc: J.S. Zimmerman <jzimme10@gmail.com>; Eva Golding <ken@davebean.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2023 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Snap Rings in Pistons

 Jack,I have these style clips on the Wiseco pistons I've recently purchase=
d for TR3, TR6 and Sprite engines. I didn't have any issue getting them in =
or out (to quote Tony "don't ask me why I know this"). I put one end in and=
 then just press it in as I push it towards the center. I used a piece of w=
ood dowel with a slot sawn into it to help. A small scribe in the notch wor=
ked fine to get them started out and didn't damage the piston or coating.
Hope this helps!Jake
    On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 12:00:01 PM CST, Jack Wheeler via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 I am trying to install the snap rings which hold the wrist (gudgeon?) pins=
 in the pistons.=C2=A0 The snap rings I have used on the TR-3/4 engines and=
 most of the other engines I have rebuilt, have small holes in the ends.=C2=
=A0 These allow you to insert snap ring pliers into the holes so you can sq=
ueeze the snap rings into place in the grooves in the piston bores.
I am assembling a Ford 1600 CC engine for my Morgan and have bought new pis=
tons.=C2=A0 The snap rings that came with these pistons do not have the hol=
es in the ends.=C2=A0 See attached picture.
These snap rings are very stiff and I can't squeeze them in by hand.=C2=A0 =
I also can't figure out a way to grip them with the snap ring pliers I have=
.=C2=A0 Does anyone know if there is a special tool I need to use to instal=
l these?=C2=A0 Or any suggestions about how I should go about installing th=
em?=C2=A0 Thanks.
Jack Wheeler
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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">I would recommend Spirolox if the grooves are wide enough to =
take them.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:10pt;color:black;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Phil Gott<br><br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>T=
o: FOT Triumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;; Jack Wheeler &lt;jwheeler1947@ya=
hoo.com&gt;<br>Cc: J.S. Zimmerman &lt;jzimme10@gmail.com&gt;; Eva Golding &=
lt;ken@davebean.com&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2023 3:57 pm<br>Subject: Re: =
[Fot] Snap Rings in Pistons<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv8104587892"><div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:16px;" class=3D"yiv8104587892ydpd18d26fbyahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Jack,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have these style cli=
ps on the Wiseco pistons I've recently purchased for TR3, TR6 and Sprite en=
gines. I didn't have any issue getting them in or out (to quote Tony "don't=
 ask me why I know this"). I put one end in and then just press it in as I =
push it towards the center. I used a piece of wood dowel with a slot sawn i=
nto it to help. A small scribe in the notch worked fine to get them started=
 out and didn't damage the piston or coating.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hope this helps!</div><div dir=3D"ltr">J=
ake</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"yiv8104587892ydp4b8a9921yahoo_quoted_4461441811" c=
lass=3D"yiv8104587892ydp4b8a9921yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div id=3D"yiv8104587892yqt58468" class=3D"yiv8104587892yqt=
6636442823"><div>
                    On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 12:00:01 PM CST, Jack Wh=
eeler via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv8104587892ydp4b8a9921yiv3236318112"><div=
><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13px;" class=3D"yiv8104587892ydp4b8a9921yiv3236318112yahoo-style-wra=
p"><div dir=3D"ltr">I am trying to install the snap rings which hold the wr=
ist (gudgeon?) pins in the pistons.&nbsp; The snap rings I have used on the=
 TR-3/4 engines and most of the other engines I have rebuilt, have small ho=
les in the ends.&nbsp; These allow you to insert snap ring pliers into the =
holes so you can squeeze the snap rings into place in the grooves in the pi=
ston bores.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I am assembling a Ford 1600 CC engine for my Morgan and have bought new pi=
stons.&nbsp; The snap rings that came with these pistons do not have the ho=
les in the ends.&nbsp; See attached picture.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">These snap rings are very stiff and I can=
't squeeze them in by hand.&nbsp; I also can't figure out a way to grip the=
m with the snap ring pliers I have.&nbsp; Does anyone know if there is a sp=
ecial tool I need to use to install these?&nbsp; Or any suggestions about h=
ow I should go about installing them?&nbsp; Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler<br clear=3D"none"></d=
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