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Rick I couldn't have said it better, all this gearbox nonsense will just r=
un off the low-buck racers or they'll be running in the back of the pack...=
costs of these options are out of reach for many.
Another question that I have is how many are running the CR sets?I would th=
ink that 30 sets would likely be doable.
Glen Efinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: 'yellow04' <yellow04@tr4racer.com>; fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.=
net>; kknight@klaenv.com <kknight@klaenv.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2023 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears
Heck, I can make anything including gearsets and shafts but no one in their=
right mind will do it because of the costs involved. Hewland Mk 9 gears se=
ts cost $325 each at this point, times four or five is not cheap. When a do=
g box brakes it's 2-4K for repairs and parts. A Jerico is fine if you need =
the extra weight and are prepared to lose some acceleration because of the =
added moment of inertia weight of the giant gears and shafts.
If someone can guarantee an order for say 30 sets I would be glad to do a q=
uote for the TR4/6 close ratio set up, I would also need a good set for eng=
ineering purposes.
I guess my point is if guys are whining about paying $85 each for steel syn=
chro's to fix the stock gearbox issues, I think they would come unglued hav=
ing to pony up for the close ratio gear sets. If there is a stock of these =
gears sets somewhere please tell me and I will buy them all at the current =
price. Realistically they should cost 3 times or more than what they sell f=
or today.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 01:36:41 PM MST, Ken Knight via Fot <fo=
t@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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When that happens we can look for alternatives.=C2=A0 You can get a Jerico=
4
speed racing transmission that will handle 4 times the power a TR box
(forever), and given gearset costs, it's not a bad investment.=C2=A0 You ca=
n even
get it with close to the ratios of TR CR box.=C2=A0 Not vintage but if we w=
ant to
race into the future gearboxes are going to be a major problem.=C2=A0 Alrea=
dy
lots of Toyota 5 speeds quietly on the grid.=C2=A0 The vast majority of par=
ts
made for racing today are far superior to what was available 60 years ago,
just look at the technological leaps in racing oil.=C2=A0 So as a sport we =
adapt
or stop racing.=C2=A0 Kas's moto was "Never be beaten by equipment".=C2=A0 =
The vast
majority of that equipment no longer exists, so when my last two TR
gearboxes are done it will be time for a change.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 8:23 AM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears
Interesting conversation, if the manufacturer of the close ratio gearsets i=
s
truly done and can't be convinced to make more, this could have pretty big
implications to a lot of racers here.
Does anybody know the ratios of the dogbox gearset?
Henry Frye
On 2023-01-16 15:34, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:
> Hi,
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> Maybe Bastuck has a dogbox gearset on the shelf?
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> Cheers
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> Chris
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> Gesendet: Montag, 16. Januar 2023 16:05
> An: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Betreff: [Fot] Close ratio gears
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> Hi All,
>=20
> Does anyone have a set of close ratio gears laying around for the
> TR4-6 gearbox they would be willing to part with?=C2=A0 They have been on=
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> date further out.
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> Thank you,
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Rick I couldn't have said it better, all this gearbo=
x nonsense will just run off the low-buck racers or they'll be running in t=
he back of the pack... costs of these options are out of reach for many.<br=
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<div><font size=3D"2">Another question that I have is how many are running =
the CR sets?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">I would think that 30 sets would likely be doable.</f=
ont></div>
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size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: 'yellow04' <yellow04@tr4racer.com>; fot@autox.team.net <fot@au=
tox.team.net>; kknight@klaenv.com <kknight@klaenv.com><br>
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2023 4:06 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Heck, I can make anything including gearsets and shafts bu=
t no one in their right mind will do it because of the costs involved. Hewl=
and Mk 9 gears sets cost $325 each at this point, times four or five is not=
cheap. When a dog box brakes it's 2-4K for repairs and parts. A Jerico is =
fine if you need the extra weight and are prepared to lose some acceleratio=
n because of the added moment of inertia weight of the giant gears and shaf=
ts.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If someone can guarantee an order for say 30 sets I would =
be glad to do a quote for the TR4/6 close ratio set up, I would also need a=
good set for engineering purposes.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess my point is if guys are whining about paying $85 e=
ach for steel synchro's to fix the stock gearbox issues, I think they would=
come unglued having to pony up for the close ratio gear sets. If there is =
a stock of these gears sets somewhere please tell me and I will buy them al=
l at the current price. Realistically they should cost 3 times or more than=
what they sell for today.</div>
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 01:36:41 PM MST, Ken Kn=
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en that happens we can look for alternatives. You can get a Jerico 4<=
br clear=3D"none">speed racing transmission that will handle 4 times the po=
wer a TR box<br clear=3D"none">(forever), and given gearset costs, it's not=
a bad investment. You can even<br clear=3D"none">get it with close t=
o the ratios of TR CR box. Not vintage but if we want to<br clear=3D"=
none">race into the future gearboxes are going to be a major problem. =
Already<br clear=3D"none">lots of Toyota 5 speeds quietly on the grid.&nbs=
p; The vast majority of parts<br clear=3D"none">made for racing today are =
far superior to what was available 60 years ago,<br clear=3D"none">just loo=
k at the technological leaps in racing oil. So as a sport we adapt<br=
clear=3D"none">or stop racing. Kas's moto was "Never be beaten by eq=
uipment". The vast<br clear=3D"none">majority of that equipment no l=
onger exists, so when my last two TR<br clear=3D"none">gearboxes are done i=
t will be time for a change.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ken<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none=
">From: Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
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ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [F=
ot] Close ratio gears<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Interesting conv=
ersation, if the manufacturer of the close ratio gearsets is<br clear=3D"no=
ne">truly done and can't be convinced to make more, this could have pretty =
big<br clear=3D"none">implications to a lot of racers here.<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Does anybody know the ratios of the dogbox gearset?<b=
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