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It=E2=80=99s an often overlooked issue. I ran into the back of a Lotus =
in Peyote at the chicane entrance once on the first lap of a Portland =
Rose Cup race because my brakes were dead cold. the victim told me he =
always rode his brakes on the warmup lap to get the pads up to =
temperature=E2=80=94advice I considered silly until I tried it. I always =
assumed brakes worked best when cold=E2=80=94they do, after all, convert =
kinetic energy into heat. It would seem the deeper the reservoir the =
better they would work, and that=E2=80=99s true for the disk, but not =
the pads. It turns out that competition pads=E2=80=94those designed to =
handle higher temperature, don=E2=80=99t start conforming to the disk =
until they get hot enough regardless of how hard you stand on the pedal. =
They also initially off-gas a little, which might also reduce friction. =
Initially Peyote had some kludgy dryer-duct cooling which I think Tony =
tossed out the first time he worked on the car. I=E2=80=99ve never had =
the brakes fade, though I=E2=80=99ve certainly had brain fade fairly =
often.=20
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
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> Yes! It=E2=80=99s a great list and the interaction is great.
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> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
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> Cell: 319.464.4711
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>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Mike Granat <mikegranat9@gmail.com> =
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> That is excellent advice and a good 'heads up'. Tony applied that =
methodology to the brakes on my +4 racer and the results were quite =
surprising. I guess we all assume that brakes always overheat... getting =
the brakes right is gratifying.
>>=20
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 6:33 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot =
>> Well , before you =E2=80=9C think=E2=80=9D you need brake cooling =
.... you need to know the facts that suit your needs.=20
>>=20
>> All brake pads operate within a temperature range. Most problems =
occur with the pad running tooo cold . Same with brake fluid!=20
>>=20
>> Is that looong pedal pad fade or Fluid boil ?=20
>>=20
>> Highly recommend using temperature paint on the rotor and caliper. =
Know your facts !!
>>=20
>> My 2 cents=20
>> T
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> > On Jan 4, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot =
>> >=20
>> > =EF=BB=BFHello!
>> >=20
>> > Anybody using any ducting to brake calipers and discs?
>> >=20
>> > Could you share your experiences?
>> >=20
>> > Thanks,
>> >=20
>> > Joe Alexander
>> > 4505 Donald Dr
>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613
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>> > Cell: 319.464.4711
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class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s an often overlooked issue. I ran into the back =
of a Lotus in Peyote at the chicane entrance once on the first lap of a =
Portland Rose Cup race because my brakes were dead cold. the victim told =
me he always rode his brakes on the warmup lap to get the pads up to =
temperature=E2=80=94advice I considered silly until I tried it. I always =
assumed brakes worked best when cold=E2=80=94they do, after all, convert =
kinetic energy into heat. It would seem the deeper the reservoir the =
better they would work, and that=E2=80=99s true for the disk, but not =
the pads. It turns out that competition pads=E2=80=94those designed to =
handle higher temperature, don=E2=80=99t start conforming to the disk =
until they get hot enough regardless of how hard you stand on the pedal. =
They also initially off-gas a little, which might also reduce friction. =
Initially Peyote had some kludgy dryer-duct cooling which I think Tony =
tossed out the first time he worked on the car. I=E2=80=99ve never had =
the brakes fade, though I=E2=80=99ve certainly had brain fade fairly =
often. <br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Alexander via =
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
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class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Yes! It=E2=80=99s a great list =
and the interaction is great.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Joe Alexander<div class=3D""><div class=3D"">4505 =
Donald Dr</div><div class=3D"">Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div =
class=3D""><a href=3D"http://The-vintage-racer.com"; =
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:10 =
AM, Mike Granat <<a href=3D"mailto:mikegranat9@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">mikegranat9@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">That is =
excellent advice and a good 'heads up'. Tony applied that methodology to =
the brakes on my +4 racer and the results were quite surprising. I guess =
we all assume that brakes always overheat... getting the brakes right is =
gratifying.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 6:33 PM Tony and =
Annie Garmey via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well , before you =E2=80=
=9C think=E2=80=9D you need brake cooling .... you need to know the =
facts that suit your needs. <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
All brake pads operate within a temperature range. Most problems =
occur with the pad running tooo cold . Same with brake fluid! <br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Is that looong pedal pad fade or Fluid boil ? <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Highly recommend using temperature paint on the rotor and caliper. Know =
your facts !!<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
My 2 cents <br class=3D"">
T<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D"">
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> =EF=BB=BFHello!<br class=3D"">
> <br class=3D"">
> Anybody using any ducting to brake calipers and discs?<br class=3D"">=
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> Could you share your experiences?<br class=3D"">
> <br class=3D"">
> Thanks,<br class=3D"">
> <br class=3D"">
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> 4505 Donald Dr<br class=3D"">
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