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To: van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:54:17 -0500
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Good point, Marcel.
I have had oil pan leaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the wi=
ndage tray attaches to the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand t=
urns. Caught fire, but the fire went out on the straights and into the pits.=
 Really baffled us (and the corner workers) for several sessions...!
Merry Christmas!
Phil=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> On  2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cove=
r itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near t=
he rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.
> Marcel
> Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>, glewis999@aol.com=

> Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak
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> Jerry;
> We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing=
 extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No pr=
oblem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the cra=
nkshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between th=
e pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No le=
aks.
> I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint betw=
een the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface.=20
> Merry Christmas!!!
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Pleas=
e keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here.
> JVV
> =20
> From: glewis999@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM
> To: jerryvv@roadrunner.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net ; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak
> =20
> Yes,
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> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
> I run a=20
>   thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. N=
ew=20
>   seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting=
=20
>   worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that.=20
> =20
> My=20
>   question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while us=
ing=20
>   the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal ride=
s on=20
>   the spacer installed behind the damper pulley.=20
> Has anyone found a double lip seal=20
>   replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a refer=
ence=20
>   P/N?
> =20
> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New=20
>   Year has to be better than 2020.
> =20
> JVV
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Good point, Marcel.<div>I have had oil pan l=
eaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the windage tray attaches t=
o the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand turns. Caught fire, bu=
t the fire went out on the straights and into the pits. Really baffled us (a=
nd the corner workers) for several sessions...!</div><div>Merry Christmas!</=
div><div>Phil&nbsp;</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, v=
an.mulders.marcel@telenet.be wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Ar=
ial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>On&nbsp; 2=
 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itsel=
f : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rive=
ts or spotwelds of the chain tensioner.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwch=
r" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>=
"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Jerry Van Vlack" &lt;jerryv=
v@roadrunner.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>triumphs@autox.team.net, "fot" &lt;fot@au=
tox.team.net&gt;, glewis999@aol.com<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 25 december=
 2020 14:09:27<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal o=
il leak<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Jerry;<=
div>We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housi=
ng extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No p=
roblem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the cr=
ankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between t=
he pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No l=
eaks.</div><div>I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if t=
he joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface=
.&nbsp;</div><div>Merry Christmas!!!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerr=
y Van Vlack via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></=
div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'calibri';color:#000000">
<div>I wasn=E2=80=99t looking for any political responses to my question. Pl=
ease keep=20
those to yourself. Not appropriate here.</div>
<div>JVV</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fon=
t-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> glewis999@aol.com </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM</div>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net ;=20
fot@autox.team.net </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak</div></div></=
div>
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<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:'calibri';fon=
t-weight:normal;color:#000000;font-style:normal;display:inline">Yes,=20

<div>Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world.<br><br>
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<div class=3D"aolmail_replyHeader">On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vl=
ack=20
&lt;jerryvv@roadrunner.com&gt; wrote: </div><br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-left:9px;mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 9px;padding-right:0px">
  <div id=3D"yiv0688108229">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'calibri';color:#000000">
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505">I run a=20
  thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New=
=20
  seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting=20=

  worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. </font></font></div=
>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505"></font></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"><font style=3D"font-size:11.3pt" color=3D"=
#050505">My=20
  question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while usin=
g=20
  the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides o=
n=20
  the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. </font></font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Has anyone found a doubl=
e lip seal=20
  replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a referen=
ce=20
  P/N?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">Thanks and Merry Christm=
as. The New=20
  Year has to be better than 2020.</font></div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-transform:none;le=
tter-spacing:normal;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );text-indent:0px"=
><font color=3D"#050505" face=3D"Segoe UI Historic">JVV</font></div></div></=
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