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Some good news, Watkins Glen can re open on June 1st.
New York will allow motor sports at Watkins Glen International raceway and
horse racing at tracks across the state to proceed without spectators
beginning June 1, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday.
mike h
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:23 PM Dale Oesterle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> The waiver is legally over- broad [see, e.g., the =E2=80=9Cor otherwise l=
anguage=E2=80=9D]
> hoping a court will scale it back and apply it to the maximum extent the
> law permits. [see the last section]. It is a drafting trick. Waivers
> usually cannot a apply to reckless or intentional misconduct (and in some
> states cannot apply to =E2=80=9Cgross negligence=E2=80=9D). Moreover, th=
e waiver in
> section 1 gives an immediate defense to all defendants (=E2=80=9Creleasee=
s=E2=80=9D) on the
> basis that the signer =E2=80=9Cfe[lt] unsafe=E2=80=9D (whatever that mean=
s) at some time
> before any injury and still participated [or did not give notice]. This i=
s
> a trial lawyer=E2=80=99s delight and, at minimum, will cause defense coun=
sel to
> delay settlement until the edge of trial, running up litigation expenses,
> until every statement of the plaintiff pre-injury has been collected and
> parsed. If you sign this, do not talk to anybody (even in jest) about ra=
ce
> or track conditions till your car is on the trailer and off the premises.
> Other language gives a defense based on your non-disclosure of any virus
> symptoms; if you cough or have nausea (probably nerves and a crummy hot
> dog) you had better tell race organizers and they will have no choice but
> to escort you out.
>
> Dale Oesterle
> - Sent from iPad
>
> On May 16, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFVARA is racing this weekend at Buttonwillow.
>
> The car count looks about half of normal.
>
> A variety of opinions on whether or not the event should have been held.
>
> California has not =E2=80=98Reopened=E2=80=99...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2020, at 1:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> The Blackhawk Farms liability waiver is worth a review and comment by one
> of our FOT racing attorneys. Not your standard form we never read.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:43 PM Gary Schneider <garygret@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> VSCDA is still planning on the Blackhawk Classic June 19-21. Blackhawk i=
s
>> opening May 30 and I've been in touch with the track and the race chair.
>>
>> Also the Midwestern Council Driver's School at BFR is firm for July 4,
>> VSCDA & SCCA participants welcome.
>>
>> Gary Schneider
>> Midwestern Council Chief Steward for Blackhawk Classic
>>
>> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 2:23:39 PM CDT, John H. Hasty via Fot <
>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can mid Ohio be far behind?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 15, 2020, at 2:42 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> FYI that VARAC Vintage Grand Prix for 2020 has been canceled.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Ted Michalos (via MotorsportReg.com)* <autopilot@motorsportreg.co=
m
>> >
>> Date: Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:52 PM
>> Subject: 2020 VARAC Vintage Grand Prix has been cancelled
>> To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> After careful consideration of all of the persons involved in running th=
e
>> annual VARAC Vintage Grand Prix, competitors, workers, volunteers and fa=
ns,
>> we have decided that this year's event, scheduled for June 18 thru 21 wi=
ll
>> be not be held. We recognize the importance of the event in the vintage
>> racing calendar, but given the on-going Covid-19 restrictions and concer=
ns,
>> we feel the prudent thing to do is cancel and start planning for next
>> year...
>>
>> On behalf of VARAC and our partners at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park we
>> thank everyone involved in vintage racing for the interest and support t=
hey
>> have shown us in the past and we look forward to hosting you all again i=
n
>> 2021 and beyond.
>>
>> Stay healthy and safe. There are better days to come, many more laps to
>> be taken in our vintage racing machines...
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Some good news, Watkins Glen can re open=C2=A0on=C2=A0June=
1st.<div><br><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">New York will all=
ow motor sports at=C2=A0Watkins Glen International raceway and horse racing=
at tracks across the state to proceed without spectators beginning June 1,=
Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday.</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div></div><div><b=
r></div><div>mike h</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:23 PM Dale Oesterle via=
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">The waiver is legally over- broad [see, e.g., the =E2=80=9Cor oth=
erwise language=E2=80=9D] hoping a court will scale it back and apply it to=
the maximum extent the law permits. =C2=A0[see the last section]. It is a =
drafting trick. Waivers usually cannot a apply to reckless or intentional m=
isconduct (and in some states cannot apply to =E2=80=9Cgross negligence=E2=
=80=9D).=C2=A0 Moreover, the waiver in section 1 gives an immediate defense=
to all defendants (=E2=80=9Creleasees=E2=80=9D) on the basis that the sign=
er =E2=80=9Cfe[lt] unsafe=E2=80=9D (whatever that means) at some time befor=
e any injury and still participated [or did not give notice]. This is a tri=
al lawyer=E2=80=99s delight and, at minimum, will cause defense counsel to =
delay settlement until the edge of trial, running up litigation expenses, u=
ntil every statement of the plaintiff pre-injury has been collected and par=
sed.=C2=A0 If you sign this, do not talk to anybody (even in jest) about ra=
ce or track conditions till your car is on the trailer and off the premises=
.=C2=A0 Other language gives a defense based on your non-disclosure of any =
virus symptoms; if you cough or have nausea (probably nerves and a crummy h=
ot dog) you had better tell race organizers and they will have no choice bu=
t to escort you out. =C2=A0<div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Dale Oesterle<div>- Se=
nt from iPad</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On M=
ay 16, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blo=
ckquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFVARA is r=
acing this weekend at Buttonwillow.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>The car count =
looks about half of normal.</div><div><br></div><div>A variety of opinions =
on whether or not the event should have been held.=C2=A0</div><div><br></di=
v><div>California has not =E2=80=98Reopened=E2=80=99...<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On May 16, 2020, at 1:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.n=
et</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font si=
ze=3D"4">The Blackhawk Farms liability waiver is worth a review and comment=
by one of our=C2=A0 FOT racing attorneys.=C2=A0 Not=C2=A0 your standard fo=
rm we never read.=C2=A0</font></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:43 PM Gary Sc=
hneider <<a href=3D"mailto:garygret@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">gar=
ygret@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue"=
;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">VSCDA is still planning on the Blackhawk Classic J=
une 19-21. Blackhawk is opening May 30 and I've been in touch with the =
track and the race chair.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Also the Midwestern Council Driver's School at BFR is firm for July 4, =
VSCDA & SCCA participants welcome.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Schneider</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Midwestern Council Ch=
ief Steward for Blackhawk Classic<br></div><div><br></div>
=20
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4447gmail-m_6003184057457639173ydpb67c6fb2yahoo_quoted_0493238517">
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On Friday, May 15, 2020, 2:23:39 PM CDT, John H. Hasty =
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Can mid Ohio be far behind?<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 15, 2020, at 2:42 PM, John Styduhar via Fo=
t <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.tea=
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<div style=3D"font-size:small">FYI that VARAC Vintage Grand Prix for 2020 h=
as been canceled.</div>
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From: <strong>Ted Michalos (via MotorsportReg.com)</strong>
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Subject: 2020 VARAC Vintage Grand Prix has been cancelled<br clear=3D"none"=
>
To: John Styduhar <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"=
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<p>After careful consideration of all of the persons involved in running th=
e annual VARAC Vintage Grand Prix, competitors, workers, volunteers and fan=
s, we have decided that this year's event, scheduled for June 18 thru 2=
1 will be not be held.=C2=A0 We recognize
the importance of the event in the vintage racing calendar, but given the =
on-going Covid-19 restrictions and concerns, we feel the prudent thing to d=
o is cancel and start planning for next year...=C2=A0</p>
<p>On behalf of VARAC and our partners at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park we =
thank everyone involved in vintage racing for the interest and support they=
have shown us in the past and we look forward to hosting you all again in =
2021 and beyond.</p>
<p>Stay healthy and safe.=C2=A0 There are better days to come, many more la=
ps to be taken in our vintage racing machines...</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
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