Re: [Fot] Go Pro Mounting

[Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>]

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I don=E2=80=99t think anyone replied yet about the question regarding whe=
ther lighting will be off if the car is mounted inside the car. =C2=A0You=
 can alter the light metering from the =E2=80=9Caveraging=E2=80=9D settin=
g that adjusts for the entire field of view or you can select spot meteri=
ng, which will bias the exposure for what=E2=80=99s in the center of the =
field of view. =C2=A0In an enclosed sedan I mount the camera over my shou=
lder and use the spot metering setting, so what=E2=80=99s outside the car=
 looks right, but if the interior is dark it may be harder to see the gau=
ges or what=E2=80=99s going on in the footwell.

I=E2=80=99ve usually mounted my ancient GoPro to the roll bar but I=E2=80=
=99m going to try one of the adhesive mounts that came with the clear pla=
stic case =E2=80=94 but only because it=E2=80=99s inside the car, so if i=
t falls it won=E2=80=99t end up on the track. =C2=A0I recall entering the=
 track access road from the grid and a suction-cup mounted GoPro on an MG=
B ahead of me fell off and landed right in the middle of the road. =C2=A0=
A friend asked if I wanted to borrow his GoPro so I could get a rear view=
 at CotA while my camera filmed the front. =C2=A0He had a large suction c=
up (at least 4=E2=80=9D across) but after he attached it to the inside of=
 the side window behind my seat I heard it fall to the floor. =C2=A0I had=
 used Rain-X (the type for use inside to prevent fogging, which it really=
 doesn=E2=80=99t do very well) and the mega suction cup refused to stick =
for more than a couple of minutes.

Part of my routine is to click on the camera when we get the 3 minute war=
ning, just before starting the engine up again. =C2=A0Remembering to clic=
k it off is a different matter.

Duncan
On Jan 19, 2020, 4:40 PM -0600, Stephen Jones via =46ot <fot=40autox.team=
.net>, wrote:
> Hi Scott.
>
> You might check out the pre-owned GoPro's on eBay. I recently bought a=C2=
=A0Hero 4, 3 camera bundle with water/dust cases, numerous mounting bits,=
 2 port battery charger, eight batteries, USB cables,=C2=A0plus carry cas=
es for =24202 with free shipping. All I had to purchase were the SD=C2=A0=
cards. I recommend 64G which the H4's will accommodate.=C2=A0The only dow=
n side is that there is no rear viewing screen on the 4's. Minor inconven=
ience if you are on a limited budget. As mentioned by John Linney, a=C2=A0=
Hero 5 is a=C2=A0better choice, but the 4's were to good of a deal too pa=
ss up.=C2=A0All cameras checked out fine.
>
> As Jason mentioned, hard wire the cameras to the ignition/power switch =
and =C2=A0the camera will begin recording.
>
> =46or exposure, I just set it on =22auto=22 with very good results.
>
> Per mounting. I prefer=C2=A0not to use the GoPro plastic mounting hardw=
are. It is fine for =22pedestrian=22 use, but in a race car not so reliab=
le with=C2=A0all the vibration and variable momentum changes.=C2=A0My sug=
gestion is to fabricate a mount from aluminum or other sturdier material.=
 Additionally, a second =22clamp=22 =C2=A0and mount point on the camera b=
ody (triangulate)=C2=A0helps keep the camera steady from vibrations. If m=
ounting outside the car, a safety wire is suggested, and may be required.=

>
> Hope this was helpful.
>
> Stephen Jones
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> =46rom: =22Jason Sukey via =46ot=22 <fot=40autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:42 AM
> To: =22Scott Janzen=22 <sjanzen=40me.com>, =22=46OT list=22 <fot=40auto=
x.team.net>
> Subject: Re: =5B=46ot=5D Go Pro Mounting
>
> Hi Scott,
> I use one of the cheapo cameras in my gt6, mounted from the rear roll h=
oop.=C2=A0 It does a much better=C2=A0 job catching me flail around behin=
d the wheel than catching action out on track.=C2=A0 I'm watching this em=
ail thread with interest.
>
> One thing I did that makes life easier is to power the camera from a US=
B port wired to the car.=C2=A0 No more worrying about charging the camera=
 battery.=C2=A0 The camera powers up as soon as I flip the kill switch, a=
ll I have to do is press record on the remote.
> https://youtu.be/yV0W=5FPxHy=5FQ
>
> Jason
>
> > On =46ri, Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 PM Scott Janzen via =46ot <fot=40autox.=
team.net> wrote:
> > > I=E2=80=99ve been thinking about buying one of these for a while, a=
nd John=E2=80=99s email got me to look at the website.
> > > GoPro is running a deal on the Hero 8 - marked down =2450 to =24350=
, ands offering another =24100 off with the trade in of a digital camera.=
 They said they will take my wife=E2=80=99s no-longer-used 7 year old Pan=
asonic point and shoot, so I=E2=80=99m down to =24250.=C2=A0 Pretty good,=
 though I assume this means they make these things for way less than =241=
00.
> > >
> > > Here=E2=80=99s the question - Most of the footage I see is from ope=
n cars - my GT6 is closed, and does not have a roll cage hoop around the =
windshield.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m assuming - maybe wrong - that if I mount it=
 back on the roll bar, the video frame will include a lot of the inside o=
f the tin top, and I=E2=80=99m also wondering if the dark/light contrast =
will make it difficult for the device to determine what =E2=80=9Cexposure=
=E2=80=9D to shoot for.
> > >
> > > Dash mount=3F, windshield suction cup=3F =C2=A0rain gutter clamp=3F=

> > >
> > > Anyone have experience with this with closed cars=3F
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, John Linney via =46ot <fot=40autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > You inspired me to get off my butt and write up a blog post coverin=
g camera choice. There will be more on the settings, mounts and creative =
options to come. =46or now here it is on choosing a camera.
> > >
> > > https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera
> > >
> > > =46or those looking to upgrade - GoPro is running a =24100 trade-in=
 promotion on their top cameras - that will last you years. It brings the=
 Hero 8 Black down to =24300, or the Hero 7 Black down to =24279.
> > >
> > > -john
> > >
> > > > On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Brian Schirano <bschirano1=40gmail.c=
om> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well.... THAT was a helpful article and explanation, I take quite=
 a bit of comfort that it isn't me, it's THEM, them GoPro people and they=
 have a reason=21
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John and others, the only thing I guess is I need to downl=
oad a stitching app and away I (we) go
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM John Linney <john=40linneyweb.=
com> wrote:
> > > > > > Older GoPros have a maximum file size of 4GB to retain compat=
ibility with older computers being able to read the SD cards. It=E2=80=99=
s not such a bad thing if your camera fails or the battery dies unexpecte=
dly. At least you have some footage already recorded. This article goes i=
nto more detail... =C2=A0https://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltrave=
l.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I=E2=80=99ll be at Mid Ohio with a bunch of GoPros. Generally=
 speaking, you should think about upgrading if your GoPro is prior to a H=
ero 5 Black. You will be stunned with the improvement in image quality, s=
tabilization and even audio quality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I=E2=80=99ll be putting together an edit of the race. Last ye=
ars edit used whatever footage I could get so you will see a vast dispari=
ty in quality. The TR250K had the most up to date GoPros and you can real=
ly tell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The race...=C2=A0https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
> > > > > > TR250K...=C2=A0https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A=C2=A0(a great exa=
mple of GoPro audio in the racing shots if you have a mic shielded from t=
he wind).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I=E2=80=99ll be putting together recommendations on which cam=
era(s) will work best. I=E2=80=99m also planning on evaluating some 360 d=
egree cameras which will make for some truly awesome creative possibiliti=
es, (just a pain to edit).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Linney
> > > > > > https://classicmotorfilms.com
> > > > > > 408 887 8105
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:03 AM, Mike Harmuth via =46ot <fot=40=
autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > =3F
> > > > > > > Brian, my Go Pro hero-2 splits up a session into roughly=C2=
=A02 MB files. I believe it related to file system limits. I use some fre=
e software, RaceRender,=C2=A0=C2=A0http://racerender.com/RR3/Download.htm=
l=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0to join and edit them into one movie. The free version=
 does all of that but has their logo embedded in the final picture. I bou=
ght a lifetime licence for something like =2450 that allows you to remove=
 the logo and do other stuff, like integrate multiple cameras and data fr=
om their smart phone app.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm guessing the free Windows Movie Maker program can be us=
ed to join them as well, I just find it's slower and the output file is l=
arge.
> > > > > > > A short clip using the software to integrate front and rear=
 cameras=C2=A0https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > mike h
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:20 AM Brian Schirano via =46ot =
<fot=40autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Yes... The Hero cards are very cool
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmmm.... an Expert with a GoPro Shawn=3F I need some h=
elp (and I've heard others have the same problem). I have a Hero Black an=
d..... when I remember to turn it ON, somewhere mid race, sometimes twice=
, it stops then restarts. I end up with multiple files from a 20 or so mi=
nute session.=C2=A0 I've fiddled with settings but really don't know what=
 I'm doing, just what I can learn from the manual.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Suggestions=3F
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > See you there
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:11 PM Shawn =46rank via =46=
ot <fot=40autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I won't touch that one... :-)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am really wanting to get a full set of cards sign=
ed by everyone if I could.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > May be difficult this year as I'm expecting a full =
crew of 3 of us again, maybe more and I suspect some of you have seen me =
at full sprint most of the weekend.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll have my 2 Nikons blazing away and 3 GoPros tha=
t may need a ride... we'll do some =46acebook Live video, race updates on=
 North American Triumphs =46acebook page, VTR's page and of course The Vi=
ntage Triumph Magazine coverage. I'm working on expanding to other public=
ations. More on that soon.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This is getting exciting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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<div dir=3D=22auto=22>I don=E2=80=99t think anyone replied yet about the =
question regarding whether lighting will be off if the car is mounted ins=
ide the car. &=23160;You can alter the light metering from the =E2=80=9Ca=
veraging=E2=80=9D setting that adjusts for the entire field of view or yo=
u can select spot metering, which will bias the exposure for what=E2=80=99=
s in the center of the field of view. &=23160;In an enclosed sedan I moun=
t the camera over my shoulder and use the spot metering setting, so what=E2=
=80=99s outside the car looks right, but if the interior is dark it may b=
e harder to see the gauges or what=E2=80=99s going on in the footwell.
<div dir=3D=22auto=22><br /></div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>I=E2=80=99ve usually mounted my ancient GoPro to th=
e roll bar but I=E2=80=99m going to try one of the adhesive mounts that c=
ame with the clear plastic case =E2=80=94 but only because it=E2=80=99s i=
nside the car, so if it falls it won=E2=80=99t end up on the track. &=231=
60;I recall entering the track access road from the grid and a suction-cu=
p mounted GoPro on an MGB ahead of me fell off and landed right in the mi=
ddle of the road. &=23160;A friend asked if I wanted to borrow his GoPro =
so I could get a rear view at CotA while my camera filmed the front. &=23=
160;He had a large suction cup (at least 4=E2=80=9D across) but after he =
attached it to the inside of the side window behind my seat I heard it fa=
ll to the floor. &=23160;I had used Rain-X (the type for use inside to pr=
event fogging, which it really doesn=E2=80=99t do very well) and the mega=
 suction cup refused to stick for more than a couple of minutes.</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22><br /></div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Part of my routine is to click on the camera when w=
e get the 3 minute warning, just before starting the engine up again. &=23=
160;Remembering to click it off is a different matter.</div>
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<div class=3D=22match=46ont=22>Duncan</div>
</div>
<div name=3D=22messageReplySection=22>On Jan 19, 2020, 4:40 PM -0600, Ste=
phen Jones via =46ot &lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt;, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =231abc9c;=22><s=
pan style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px=
=22></span>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>Hi Scott.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>You might check out the pre-owned GoPro's on eBay. I recently =
bought a&=23160;Hero 4, 3 camera bundle with water/dust cases, numerous m=
ounting bits, 2 port battery charger, eight batteries, USB cables,&=23160=
;plus carry cases for =24202 with free shipping. All I had to purchase we=
re the SD&=23160;cards. I recommend 64G which the H4's will accommodate.&=
=23160;The only down side is that there is no rear viewing screen on the =
4's. Minor inconvenience if you are on a limited budget. As mentioned by =
John Linney, a&=23160;Hero 5 is a&=23160;better choice, but the 4's were =
to good of a deal too pass up.&=23160;All cameras checked out fine.</span=
></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>As Jason mentioned, hard wire the cameras to the ignition/powe=
r switch and &=23160;the camera will begin recording.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>=46or exposure, I just set it on =22auto=22 with very good res=
ults.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>Per mounting. I prefer&=23160;not to use the GoPro plastic mou=
nting hardware. It is fine for =22pedestrian=22 use, but in a race car no=
t so reliable with&=23160;all the vibration and variable momentum changes=
.&=23160;My suggestion is to fabricate a mount from aluminum or other stu=
rdier material. Additionally, a second =22clamp=22 &=23160;and mount poin=
t on the camera body (triangulate)&=23160;helps keep the camera steady fr=
om vibrations. If mounting outside the car, a safety wire is suggested, a=
nd may be required.&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>Hope this was helpful.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22>Stephen Jones</span></div>
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e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
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e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
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e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
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e: 12px=22>&=23160;</span></div>
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<div><span style=3D=22font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-siz=
e: 12px=22><span style=3D=22font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 10pt;=22><b>=46rom</b>: =22Jason Sukey via =46ot=22 &lt;fot=40autox.t=
eam.net&gt;<br />
<b>Sent</b>: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:42 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: =22Scott Janzen=22 &lt;sjanzen=40me.com&gt;, =22=46OT list=22 =
&lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt;<br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: =5B=46ot=5D Go Pro Mounting</span></span>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Hi Scott,
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>I use one of the cheapo cameras in my gt6, mounted =
from the rear roll hoop.&=23160; It does a much better&=23160; job catchi=
ng me flail around behind the wheel than catching action out on track.&=23=
160; I'm watching this email thread with interest.</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>One thing I did that makes life easier is to power =
the camera from a USB port wired to the car.&=23160; No more worrying abo=
ut charging the camera battery.&=23160; The camera powers up as soon as I=
 flip the kill switch, all I have to do is press record on the remote.</d=
iv>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22><a href=3D=22https://youtu.be/yV0W=5FPxHy=5FQ=22>ht=
tps://youtu.be/yV0W=5FPxHy=5FQ</a></div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Jason</div>
</div>
&=23160;
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22>
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22 dir=3D=22ltr=22>On =46ri, Jan 17, 2020, 1=
2:20 PM Scott Janzen via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.n=
et=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin: =
5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =23e67e22;=22>
<div style=3D=22word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space=22>I=E2=
=80=99ve been thinking about buying one of these for a while, and John=E2=
=80=99s email got me to look at the website.
<div>GoPro is running a deal on the Hero 8 - marked down =2450 to =24350,=
 ands offering another =24100 off with the trade in of a digital camera. =
They said they will take my wife=E2=80=99s no-longer-used 7 year old Pana=
sonic point and shoot, so I=E2=80=99m down to =24250.&=23160; Pretty good=
, though I assume this means they make these things for way less than =24=
100.</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Here=E2=80=99s the question - Most of the footage I see is from open=
 cars - my GT6 is closed, and does not have a roll cage hoop around the w=
indshield.&=23160; I=E2=80=99m assuming - maybe wrong - that if I mount i=
t back on the roll bar, the video frame will include a lot of the inside =
of the tin top, and I=E2=80=99m also wondering if the dark/light contrast=
 will make it difficult for the device to determine what =E2=80=9Cexposur=
e=E2=80=9D to shoot for.</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Dash mount=3F, windshield suction cup=3F &=23160;rain gutter clamp=3F=
</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Anyone have experience with this with closed cars=3F</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott&=23160;</div>
<div>
<div>&=23160;
<div>On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, John Linney via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22=
mailto:fot=40autox.team.net=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblan=
k=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
&=23160;
<div>
<div style=3D=22word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space=22>You =
inspired me to get off my butt and write up a blog post covering camera c=
hoice. There will be more on the settings, mounts and creative options to=
 come. =46or now here it is on choosing a camera.
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div><a href=3D=22https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-c=
ar-camera=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://www.c=
lassicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera</a></div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>=46or those looking to upgrade - GoPro is running a =24100 trade-in =
promotion on their top cameras - that will last you years. It brings the =
Hero 8 Black down to =24300, or the Hero 7 Black down to =24279.&=23160;<=
/div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>-john
<div>&=23160;
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =233498db;=22>
<div>On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Brian Schirano &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:=
bschirano1=40gmail.com=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>=
bschirano1=40gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
&=23160;
<div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 style=3D=22font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font=
-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:=
normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none=22>Well.... THAT was a helpfu=
l article and explanation, I take quite a bit of comfort that it isn't me=
, it's THEM, them GoPro people and they have a reason=21
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Thanks John and others, the only thing I guess is I need to download=
 a stitching app and away I (we) go</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Brian</div>
</div>
&=23160;
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22font-family:Helvetica;font-si=
ze:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;let=
ter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none=22>
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22 dir=3D=22ltr=22>On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1=
2:08 PM John Linney &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:john=40linneyweb.com=22 rel=3D=
=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>john=40linneyweb.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:</div>
<blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin: =
5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =23d35400;=22>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Older GoPros have a maximum file size of 4GB to reta=
in compatibility with older computers being able to read the SD cards. It=
=E2=80=99s not such a bad thing if your camera fails or the battery dies =
unexpectedly. At least you have some footage already recorded. This artic=
le goes into more detail... &=23160;<a href=3D=22https://www.google.com/a=
mp/s/havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/=22 rel=3D=
=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://www.google.com/amp/s/hav=
ecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/</a></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>I=E2=80=99ll be at Mid Ohio with a bunch of GoPros. =
Generally speaking, you should think about upgrading if your GoPro is pri=
or to a Hero 5 Black. You will be stunned with the improvement in image q=
uality, stabilization and even audio quality.&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>I=E2=80=99ll be putting together an edit of the race=
. Last years edit used whatever footage I could get so you will see a vas=
t disparity in quality. The TR250K had the most up to date GoPros and you=
 can really tell.&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>The race...&=23160;<a href=3D=22https://youtu.be/iLo=
1u5ZjNmI=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://youtu.=
be/iLo1u5ZjNmI</a></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>TR250K...&=23160;<a href=3D=22https://youtu.be/UzLcA=
UqjZ1A=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://youtu.be=
/UzLcAUqjZ1A</a>&=23160;(a great example of GoPro audio in the racing sho=
ts if you have a mic shielded from the wind).&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>I=E2=80=99ll be putting together recommendations on =
which camera(s) will work best. I=E2=80=99m also planning on evaluating s=
ome 360 degree cameras which will make for some truly awesome creative po=
ssibilities, (just a pain to edit).&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>-john</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>John Linney</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22><a href=3D=22https://classicmotorfilms.com/=22 rel=3D=
=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://classicmotorfilms.com</a=
></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>408 887 8105</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>&=23160;
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =2334495e;=22>On=
 Jan 16, 2020, at 6:03 AM, Mike Harmuth via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto=
:fot=40autox.team.net=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>f=
ot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br />
&=23160;</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =2334495e;=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>=3F
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Brian, my Go Pro hero-2 splits up a session into rou=
ghly&=23160;2 MB files. I believe it related to file system limits. I use=
 some free software, RaceRender,&=23160;&=23160;<a href=3D=22http://racer=
ender.com/RR3/Download.html=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblan=
k=22>http://racerender.com/RR3/Download.html</a>&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;t=
o join and edit them into one movie. The free version does all of that bu=
t has their logo embedded in the final picture. I bought a lifetime licen=
ce for something like =2450 that allows you to remove the logo and do oth=
er stuff, like integrate multiple cameras and data from their smart phone=
 app.
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>I'm guessing the free Windows Movie Maker program can be used to joi=
n them as well, I just find it's slower and the output file is large.</di=
v>
<div>A short clip using the software to integrate front and rear cameras&=
=23160;<a href=3D=22https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22=
 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk</a></div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>mike h</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
</div>
&=23160;
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22>
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22 dir=3D=22ltr=22>On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8=
:20 AM Brian Schirano via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.=
net=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin: =
5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =232ecc71;=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Yes... The Hero cards are very cool
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Hmmmm.... an Expert with a GoPro Shawn=3F I need some help (and I've=
 heard others have the same problem). I have a Hero Black and..... when I=
 remember to turn it ON, somewhere mid race, sometimes twice, it stops th=
en restarts. I end up with multiple files from a 20 or so minute session.=
&=23160; I've fiddled with settings but really don't know what I'm doing,=
 just what I can learn from the manual.</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>Suggestions=3F</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
<div>See you there</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Brian</div>
<div>&=23160;</div>
</div>
&=23160;
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22>
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22 dir=3D=22ltr=22>On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9=
:11 PM Shawn =46rank via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.n=
et=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin: =
5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =239b59b6;=22>I won'=
t touch that one... :-)
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140128206=22>&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140128549=22>I am really wanting to get a full set of cards =
signed by everyone if I could.&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140487276=22>&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140487495=22>May be difficult this year as I'm expecting a f=
ull crew of 3 of us again, maybe more and I suspect some of you have seen=
 me at full sprint most of the weekend.&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140501544=22>&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140501833=22>I'll have my 2 Nikons blazing away and 3 GoPros=
 that may need a ride... we'll do some =46acebook Live video, race update=
s on North American Triumphs =46acebook page, VTR's page and of course Th=
e Vintage Triumph Magazine coverage. I'm working on expanding to other pu=
blications. More on that soon.&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140599702=22>&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140599964=22>This is getting exciting.</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140465557=22>&=23160;</div>
<div id=3D=22m=5F-3947416733709046633gmail-m=5F2769966863566850977gmail-m=
=5F-180339013037729222gmail-m=5F3893229166962873825yMail=5FcursorElementT=
racker=5F1579140465840=22>See you all there=21=21=21<br />
&=23160;
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515-339-4228<br />
<br />
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