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Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing
From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:35:31 +0000 (UTC)
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Yes, and if I recall I sure didn't expect her to walk away from that one...=
but she did.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>
To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com>
Cc: Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com>; Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>; =
Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2019 4:56 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing

Wasn't there fence ripping accident on the back straight at RA? I think tha=
t that was the Katherine Legge.
Bob Kramer

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:

Mike...
Great point.=C2=A0 Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing, the =
tracks were 'forgiving'.=C2=A0 If you made a mistake, you spun off mowing t=
he lawn or creating a dust cloud.=C2=A0 The only penalty was embarrassment.=
=C2=A0 I'll never forget then one first spring event I showed up for at Roa=
d America and it was like I was in a street race, surrounded by Century Lin=
k Fencing.
I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded it.=
=C2=A0 CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers/sno=
w fencing and crash into the crowd. =C2=A0
No question that was a potential issue.=C2=A0 The change was a good idea...=
but drivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those 'forgiving' tracks.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
Cc: FoTTriumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing

You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it easier to avoid st=
uff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car width off the track=
, it's more like" If you spin, they're towing you in"
mike h
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:

One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go two i=
n.=C2=A0
https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c
The MGB behind me was not so fortunate=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 25, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:



=EF=BB=BF
Two feet in has its advantages=C2=A0
https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:



=EF=BB=BF Another variation on the saying: If you're going around it's both=
 feet down. Merry Christmas. Bill
  On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
 =20
 Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve been in =
a few situations where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not follo=
wing this advice and they always come rolling across the track backwards fo=
llowing an unpredictable path usually collecting a few unsuspecting racers =
along the way.=C2=A0 Always go two feet in.=C2=A0





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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">
<div>Yes, and if I recall I sure didn't expect her to walk away from that o=
ne...but she did.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Bill Dentinger</div>

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</div>
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<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Kramer &lt;rkramer56@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Bill Dentinger &lt;billdentin@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: Mike Harmuth &lt;ofracer@gmail.com&gt;; Greg Blake &lt;gblake58tr3@iclo=
ud.com&gt;; Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2019 4:56 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Two feet in. Re: A-Type Overdrive Testing<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wasn't there fence ripping accident on the back straight a=
t RA? I think that that was the Katherine Legge.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv3134218386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at =
1:13 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv3134218386gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

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<div>Mike...</div>



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<div>Great point.&nbsp; Many years ago when I first started Vintage Racing,=
 the tracks were 'forgiving'.&nbsp; If you made a mistake, you spun off mow=
ing the lawn or creating a dust cloud.&nbsp; The only penalty was embarrass=
ment.&nbsp; I'll never forget then one first spring event I showed up for a=
t Road America and it was like I was in a street race, surrounded by Centur=
y Link Fencing.</div>



<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>



<div>I was told that as far as Road America was concerned CART had demanded=
 it.&nbsp; CART was afraid one of their cars would leap the cement barriers=
/snow fencing and crash into the crowd. &nbsp;</div>



<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>



<div>No question that was a potential issue.&nbsp; The change was a good id=
ea...but drivers like me (prone to make errors) missed those 'forgiving' tr=
acks.</div>



<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>



<div>Bill Dentinger</div>



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From: Mike Harmuth via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
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nk" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:gblake58tr=
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Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 10:42 am<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You guys have a lot of nothing down there, sure makes it e=
asier to avoid stuff. At Watkins Glen, with the guardrails about one car wi=
dth off the track, it's more like

<div>" If you spin, they're towing you in"</div>



<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>



<div>mike h</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:13 PM Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

<div>One of my experiences watching what happens when you don=E2=80=99t go =
two in.&nbsp;

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<div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noop=
ener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https://youtu.be/T7vsqHKaR7c</a></div>



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<div>The MGB behind me was not so fortunate&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>



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19, at 8:06 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
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e"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>

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<div>Two feet in has its advantages&nbsp;</div>



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<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https://youtu.be/p27lXSehRY0</a><br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">

<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>



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19, at 6:07 PM, Bill Tobin via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>

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<div>Another variation on the saying: If you're going around it's both
      feet down.</div>


   =20

<div>Merry Christmas.</div>


   =20

<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>


   =20

<div>On 12/24/2019 7:00 PM, Greg Blake via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>


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     =20
      Whenever you start to spin it=E2=80=99s two feet in. I=E2=80=99ve bee=
n in a few
      situations where other drivers have tried to save a spin by not
      following this advice and they always come rolling across the
      track backwards following an unpredictable path usually collecting
      a few unsuspecting racers along the way.&nbsp; Always go two feet in.=
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