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Thread-topic: Triumph Competition at Assen
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I have to agree with Chris. Chris and I started racing about the same time =
in the german TriumphCompetition and British GT championship. I had already=
 2 years experience in the Belgian BRAVO competition. Till 2011 I had an ad=
vance over Chris and have won the Triumph competition overall in 2010 and 2=
011. But Chris was determined to beat all the other drivers, me in the firs=
t place or should I say : only me! He succeeded and in 2011 he did beat me =
for the 1st time. Where : at the Assen TT circuit, his favourite track. By =
then, I had told him all I knew about car preparation and he was working wi=
th Kas already. Zandvoort 2017 was the last time I could beat Chris : I fin=
ished 1st overall, Chris was 2nd, his engine was powerfull, but maybe there=
 was an antirollbar issue on his car. Anyway I can't beat him anymore. His =
determination, Kas helping him to the full and his experience with the TR8,=
 with wich he is competing in much faster championships, has ironed him to =
a very fast driver. From the beginning, I learned a lot from the books of K=
as and I mailed him now and then, mostly about my engine and dyno work but =
since the Assen humiliation, a week ago, Kas is helping me in the chassis d=
epartment. In there is small possibility, I will try to beat Chris once aga=
in : this is only possible if my car is better than his. But with 67 years =
old, I'll have to be in a hurry I believe,Kas can only give someone specifi=
c advice if he knows your car of course, all general information about raci=
ng Triumph cars is in his books. Chris and I had arguements over the years,=
 but we always kept talking to each other and over the years, although we a=
re different characters, mutual respect has grown. I have to add that I hav=
e great respect for his work with the TR8 : it has cost him an awful lot of=
 work and time and money and he got more than a fair share of heavy blows a=
long the way, yet he does not give up. So he is a champion!=20
I will post a lead to a video of the same race at the Assen circuit, onboar=
d of my car, but turn down the audio, because I drilled by accident in the =
microphone lead=20
Marcel.=20



Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Zaterdag 22 juni 2019 00:03:53=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Triumph Competition at Assen=20





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Hi FOT,=20

A philosophic statement:=20

With regards to this video from Assen race track, I=E2=80=99ve got many com=
ments about, =E2=80=9Chow is your car so fast=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cwhy does i=
t handle so well=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cwhy does it brake so good=E2=80=9D, =E2=
=80=9Cwhere did you learn to drive so quick=E2=80=9D.=20

The answer is very simple.=20

Kas showed me everything.=20

I do what he suggests. I explain the problem to him and he gives the right =
answer to make my race car quick and he has also advice on how to drive and=
 how to deal with other drivers.=20

I get often the comments, that Kas knowledge is from yesterday =E2=80=93 ou=
tdated =E2=80=93 for me it is the best knowledge base I can get from someon=
e who did serious PRO motorsport and not this amateur motorsport we are bei=
ng in.=20

This means for me, everything he advises has been proved a thousand times, =
with many drivers which you can call the best of the best.=20

So who I am to know it better? Who are these other amateur drivers who say =
that they know it better?=20

Conclusion:=20

Everybody who knows =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D has to learn the bitter lesson=
 that not listening to Kas make them losing races, wasting money and having=
 less fun.=20

Cheers=20

Chris=20




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To: fot@autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net=
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Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 10:22 am=20
Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition at Assen=20


Assen was really fun. The weather was largely great, all participants were =
in a good mood. Most cars have kept up (which, oddly enough, is always a pr=
oblem at Assen).=20


After a solid 2nd place in Race 1, a failure with a pushrod damage in Race =
2, made me start from the back in Race 3. I got help from Philippe Vermast.=
 He had suffered an engine failure, but could find a replacement engine and=
 shared in race 3 with me the last row.=20





Philippe immediately took the lead in our Dynamic Duo and we made our way t=
hrough the strong field of cars ahead.=20





Although I was the first to cross the finish line, unfortunately I did an u=
nnoticed overtaking maneuver under the Yellow Flag. So I was reset by 20 se=
conds, on P4. Of course I'm happy for the winners on the podium, because I =
had had so much fun in this catch-up race. Philippe had also enjoyed the fu=
rious ride. Unfortunately, he touched a tire barrier in the chicane and ben=
t the steering. He did not reach the finish.=20





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--></style></div><div>I have to agree with Chris. Chris and I started racin=
g about the same time  in the german TriumphCompetition and British GT cham=
pionship. I had already 2 years experience in the Belgian BRAVO competition=
. Till 2011 I had an advance over Chris and have won the Triumph competitio=
n overall in 2010 and 2011. But Chris was determined to beat all the other =
drivers, me in the first place or should I say : only me! He succeeded and =
in 2011 he did beat me for the 1st time. Where : at the Assen TT circuit, h=
is favourite track. By then, I had told him all I knew about car preparatio=
n and he was working with&nbsp; Kas already. Zandvoort 2017 was the last ti=
me I could beat Chris : I finished 1st overall, Chris was 2nd, his engine w=
as powerfull, but maybe there was an antirollbar issue on his car. Anyway I=
 can't beat him anymore. His determination, Kas helping him to the full and=
 his experience with the TR8, with wich he is competing in much faster cham=
pionships, has ironed him to a very fast driver. From the beginning, I lear=
ned a lot from the books of Kas and I mailed him now and then, mostly about=
 my engine and dyno work but since the Assen humiliation, a week ago, Kas i=
s helping me in the chassis department. In there is small possibility, I wi=
ll try to beat Chris once again : this is only possible if my car is better=
 than his. But with 67 years old, I'll have to be in a hurry I believe,Kas =
can only give someone specific advice if he knows your car of course, all g=
eneral information about racing Triumph cars is in his books. Chris and I h=
ad arguements over the years, but we always kept talking to each other and =
over the years, although we are different characters, mutual respect has gr=
own. I have to add that I have great respect for his work with the TR8 : it=
 has cost him an awful lot of work and time and money and he got more than =
a fair share of heavy blows along the way, yet he does not give up. So he i=
s a champion!</div><div>I will post a lead to&nbsp; a video of the same rac=
e at the Assen circuit, onboard of my car, but turn down the audio, because=
 I drilled by accident in the microphone lead</div><div>Marcel.</div><div><=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=
=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot=
@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>V=
erzonden: </b>Zaterdag 22 juni 2019 00:03:53<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot]=
 Triumph Competition at Assen<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"_=
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tyle=3D"margin: 5.0pt 0cm 5.0pt 11.25pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 5.0pt 0=
cm 5.0pt 11.25pt;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
 auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; =
margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ari=
al',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',=
sans-serif;">Hi FOT,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
 auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">A philosophic statement:</span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;=
" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif=
;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">W=
ith regards to this video from Assen race track, I=E2=80=99ve got many comm=
ents about, =E2=80=9Chow is your car so fast=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cwhy does it=
 handle so well=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cwhy does it brake so good=E2=80=9D, =E2=
=80=9Cwhere did you learn to drive so quick=E2=80=9D.</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data=
-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">The an=
swer is very simple.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
 auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;=
 font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Kas showed me everything.</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt=
;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">=
I do what he suggests. I explain the problem to him and he gives the right =
answer to make my race car quick and he has also advice on how to drive and=
 how to deal with other drivers.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-mar=
gin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">I get often the comments, th=
at Kas knowledge is from yesterday =E2=80=93 outdated =E2=80=93 for me it i=
s the best knowledge base I can get from someone who did serious PRO motors=
port and not this amateur motorsport we are being in.</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data=
-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">This m=
eans for me, everything he advises has been proved a thousand times, with m=
any drivers which you can call the best of the best.</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-=
mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">So who=
 I am to know it better? Who are these other amateur drivers who say that t=
hey know it better?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-to=
p-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0=
pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; =
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Conclusion:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US">Everybody who knows =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D has to learn the=
 bitter lesson that not listening to Kas make them losing races, wasting mo=
ney and having less fun.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-marg=
in-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-=
alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Cheers</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Chris</span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 1=
2.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans=
-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'A=
rial',sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bo=
ttom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 1=
2.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; =
color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sa=
ns-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Chris Marx via=
 Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br>To: fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Jun =
17, 2019 10:22 am<br>Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition at Assen</span></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt: auto;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',san=
s-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Assen was really fun. The weather was lar=
gely great, all participants were in a good mood. Most cars have kept up (w=
hich, oddly enough, is always a problem at Assen).</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-al=
t: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt=
: auto;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;=
 color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',s=
ans-serif; color: black;">After a solid 2nd place in Race 1, a failure with=
 a pushrod damage in Race 2, made me start from the back in Race 3. I got h=
elp from Philippe Vermast. He had suffered an engine failure, but could fin=
d a replacement engine and shared in race 3 with me the last row.</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Ari=
al',sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: =
auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: a=
uto;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; co=
lor: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans=
-serif; color: black;">Philippe immediately took the lead in our Dynamic Du=
o and we made our way through the strong field of cars ahead.</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',=
sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family=
: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; colo=
r: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-s=
erif; color: black;">Although I was the first to cross the finish line, unf=
ortunately I did an unnoticed overtaking maneuver under the Yellow Flag. So=
 I was reset by 20 seconds, on P4. Of course I'm happy for the winners on t=
he podium, because I had had so much fun in this catch-up race. Philippe ha=
d also enjoyed the furious ride. Unfortunately, he touched a tire barrier i=
n the chicane and bent the steering. He did not reach the finish.</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-m=
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mily: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p cla=
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